UAW authorized Strike. Huge Demands!

[Boxer4]

I don’t think you understand what at will employment means. You cannot be an at will employee, and have a labor contract. Union stewards are your protection. You may be in a poorly run local where they don’t actually attempt to protect the members from unfair labor practices, but I promise you those protections exist for you. I suggest you familiarize yourself with how this works if you’re going to be explaining it to people. You just told me you’re at will employees and then explained to me how you’re not. Lol

I think that what he's trying to explain is that in building trades unions workforce demands change constantly therefore your employment with a union signatory contractor is not guaranteed when workforce demands are reduced (they're not going to keep 12 people on payroll for work that only need 2 ) you do have a lot of job protections but typical crew size adjustments is not one of them

Thanks @Phil B
Job protections were limited and centered around safety, stewards, crew ratios and jurisdictions.

For the most part, the only pay you were guaranteed is the day you just started.

I was lucky enough to “ at-will “ myself to leave the poor union at 55 with a pension, 401k and full medical benefits

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[Hdscreens]

Negotiations are not off to a good start. Ford seems to have offered more than the other two and explained it would pay significantly more than Tesla and US Asian plants but still seems they are far from what UAW is asking.

 

[Bronco574]

We KNOW- the UAW has authorized a Strike, - has Targeted FORD in Negotiations, - UAW coffers hold about 12 weeks of $, - current vehicle on lot inventory is Very High, - Big 3 has made record profits $ last couple years and INFLATION is HIGH all leading to FUTURE Increased MSRP $ - THE PERFECT STORM!

 

[Lilj4425]

At least gas prices are dropping.

 

[j_marinelli]

At least gas prices are dropping.

 

[NatureMan]

In before the local 6g union rep posts in this thread.

 

[lakesinai]

Thought I'd pass on Ford's recent offer, if it has not already been posted. Ford thinks this is generous, but doesn't want to bankrupt its future.
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...aw-contract-offer--significant-pay-incre.html

 

[Taltyman]

I'm so old that when we first got married I told my wife that if I ever made 10K per year we'd be well off. Times have changed.

 

[21BL2DR]

Thought I'd pass on Ford's recent offer, if it has not already been posted. Ford thinks this is generous, but doesn't want to bankrupt its future.
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...aw-contract-offer--significant-pay-incre.html

Ford publishing it's offer is a good strategy for them.

 

[PrepVet]

I work in a Union shop (not UAW) and was a union steward on the floor before I got into management. The die hard union guys are livid about how Ford is "insulting" its workers with this "pittance" of an offer! That is is "outrageous!" And "proves slavery is still alive in the US!"

I told them it is not their nor mine nor our companies business. We are not affiliated with them. They can talk about it all they want or break or while working. We (the company) will honor our side of the working agreement and not buying anything from a striking union shop; but it will have almost zero effect on how we are operating.

What effect it is having is that almost almost car makers in the US an North America will use our products in some form in all or most of their plants.

We supplied some rather expensive stuff to the MAP when they were resetting to make the Bronco and have some orders somewhere in the pipeline with the all of the Detroit 3 and Toyota etc. that make cars here.

Around the same time the UAW strike was OK'ed if the talks don't come to a conclusion we were notified that their (the Detroit 3) orders are on "hold." I told them that might result in something temporary here. I'm not even in sales and I can see the ripple that will have in our scheduled process in several of our plants.

Anyway, good luck to both sides, but if you're waiting on your Bronco I would gird your loins for a much longer wait.

 

[swamp2]

We KNOW- the UAW ... has Targeted FORD in Negotiations,

I'm following the news carefully here as my build is scheduled for 9/18. I've not seen reference to this. I've heard many think Stellantis is the most likely for a single target. Legal actions were also taken against Stellantis and GM yesterday for failure to respond with offers, whereas Ford did make a counteroffer.

 

[Bronco Snow Dog]

We KNOW- the UAW has authorized a Strike, - has Targeted FORD in Negotiations, - UAW coffers hold about 12 weeks of $, - current vehicle on lot inventory is Very High, - Big 3 has made record profits $ last couple years and INFLATION is HIGH all leading to FUTURE Increased MSRP $ - THE PERFECT STORM!

UAW asked for 40%, Ford offered 15%. They'll meet in the middle. If I'm not mistaken, Ford also offered to eliminate tiers, paying newbies the same as veterans. So newbies can step in and do the work as well as veteran workers? That doesn't say much for the skills required. Unfortunately Fain asked for so much, he'll look like an asshole if he doesn't get at least 25%. I personally think they should get less but improved results based profit sharing. There will be no increased retiree benefits. Fain also asking for a 32 hour work week is a joke.

 

[swamp2]

UAW asked for 40%, Ford offered 15%.

Incorrect, Ford offered 9% wage increase over the contract, which I'm pretty sure would be 4 years.

Source: https://fordauthority.com/2023/09/ford-officially-reveals-uaw-contract-offer/

 

[Bronco Snow Dog]

Incorrect, Ford offered 9% wage increase over the contract, which I'm pretty sure would be 4 years.

Source: https://fordauthority.com/2023/09/ford-officially-reveals-uaw-contract-offer/

Somewhere I read about another 6% offered up front. BTW, that's a good link and shows that Ford has made a really fair offer when compared to the previous 2019 contract. If that opportunity was offered in my state of NJ, folks would be clamoring for those jobs.

 

[swamp2]

Loosely good information from a pundit predicting Stellantis will be singled out.

Art Wheaton, a labor professor at Cornell University, predicts that there will likely be a strike, starting with Stellantis, followed by additional pressure on Ford and GM to improve their offers.

Source: https://vigourtimes.com/inevitable-strikes-at-gm-ford-stellantis-by-uaw/

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