He had written a post similar to the 2.3L thread that discussed methodology and had some dyno charts. You are correct that he deleted it for some unknown reason.
They were not, which is why it was deleted. My apologies, did not want to share misinformation. I assure you we are working on it.
Sorry, I didn't get a chance to read the post as I was busy at work. By the time I was able to read it, he had already deleted it.
Spot on. It def. works and now the people (like me) who care about facts and figures want a more detailed view of the maps and dyno charts to better be able to compare this product to others on the market and others coming down the pipe (i.e. a Ford Factory Tune).Installed mine today on my 2.7L and I’m impressed. I couldn’t do the spark plugs today since I didn’t have my spark plug wrenches handy but testing maps 5 and 6 with 93 octane was a blast! I bought it mainly to help with towing and I believe it will do a good job with that. Around town though… that’s where the fun is
Okay. But still... why haven't you (Panda) posted up your analysis and breakdown of the PPM's performance metrics as previously discussed...
Final post to add to this thread ...
It's clear by now that Panda Motorworks has abandoned ship and will not be providing the information that the promised a very long time ago. They've simply moved on....
The fact remains: I have yet to see any dyno which backs up their claim that this product has every made "Up to 20%" gains for either HP or TQ (at peak or otherwise under the curve in the rev band).
I've tried to manually to find peak gains from evilletruck who did a dyno pull and got to about 16.83% gain at ~5,500 RPM. He tried to reverse engineer the justifications/reasons why he never hit those 20% figures....
Of note: Panda has told me (directly) that they have added a 5% variance to take into account a multitude of variances in Bronco builds (i.e. tire sizes, lifts, armor, etc), ambient temperature, fuel octane, blahblahblah. Stating that they layer in a 5% variance could mean anything... it could mean they've taken the dyno gains and slapped another 5% on it, or it could mean something else that ultimately adds theoretical gains to substantiated gains..
Secondly, finally, and most importantly. Someone at Panda told me:
"At the end of the day numbers are just numbers and the most important thing should be the enhanced driving experience, which we feel like we have accomplished!"
Uhhh... yeah... it matters. It matters to people who want to cross shop other products as well (i.e. JB4 and possibly an OEM tune in the near future). Being a performance brand and company, I don't understand how anyone at the company could have ever made that kind of statement.
It. Matters.
Goodbye and Good Luck.
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Yep JB4 looks like it makes the most peak power from a piggyback, but... I have a friend running one of these on his new Supra and he already blew a turbo. It definitely made a lot of power until then though
It would have been better for the Panda team to have provided the 2.7 dynos up front, but I have no complaints about the performance of the module itself. Proof is in the pudding as they say.
