Modified Airaid Snorkel installed

[CitrusBronco]

So does anyone in here use a snorkle to cross windshield depth water? If no and you have a snorkle you are posing as someone who needs a snorkle to cross windshield deep water.

Hate guy is that better.

I know you’re just messing with the op but let me come back with some sanity.

Dont most Normal off-roaders understand the snorkel provides water intake protection and allows for cleaner air intake? It’s not for driving submerged like a 1950’s 2.5 ton military truck sales video.

Does that guy that just came here to make fun/hate on snorkels also call the rest of the Bronco community posers?
Right, for buying a highly capable off-road vehicle and never going off-road and what about the people daily driving vette’s and mustang gt’s they must be posers also since no roads allow speeds or conditions for them to operate as intended.

what purpose is made to come to a Off-road truck forum and hate on people who actually off-road?

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[KDWright5407]

Legit question for those with the 2.7 and a snorkel. How are your alternators doing with the water? I understand that the alternator on the 2.7 is lower than the on the 2.3, which is why the Everglades only came with the 2.7. If you're splashing around enough to soak your air intake, isn't the alternator also getting soaked (and possibly caked in mud)? I get a cleaner/drier air intake and filter, but aren't you putting a more expensive and arguably more important engine component at increased risk? Again, not judging, a legit question for those much smarter than me.

 

[Danielsand]

Legit question for those with the 2.7 and a snorkel. How are your alternators doing with the water? I understand that the alternator on the 2.7 is lower than the on the 2.3, which is why the Everglades only came with the 2.7. If you're splashing around enough to soak your air intake, isn't the alternator also getting soaked (and possibly caked in mud)? I get a cleaner/drier air intake and filter, but aren't you putting a more expensive and arguably more important engine component at increased risk? Again, not judging, a legit question for those much smarter than me.

I am not smarter than you. I often wandered the same. I have no "electrical knowledge", but I think that electricity and water don't go well together.

 

[Ninjak]

Legit question for those with the 2.7 and a snorkel. How are your alternators doing with the water? I understand that the alternator on the 2.7 is lower than the on the 2.3, which is why the Everglades only came with the 2.7. If you're splashing around enough to soak your air intake, isn't the alternator also getting soaked (and possibly caked in mud)? I get a cleaner/drier air intake and filter, but aren't you putting a more expensive and arguably more important engine component at increased risk? Again, not judging, a legit question for those much smarter than me.

Some incorrect information here. The 2.3 and the 2.7 alternators are in the same place. The 2.3 is not higher than the 2.7. The reason the Everglades has the 2.3 is due to the weight of the engine combined with the winch.

I run a 2.7, and no, I do not have a snorkel, but Ford did a change a while back, that put guards around the Alternator to help it with going through large puddles and such. I have taken my Bronco through mud holes and very deep puddles and water with no issues. People misunderstand the difference between FORDING in water and going THROUGH water. Also, a snorkel is more than just for water, dust, and other means are meant for the snorkel. The function is to keep CLEAN air to the airbox. The mod OG made to his snorkel is for CFM to his box. It's a good mod.

How people mod their RIG is what makes owning these vehicles fun. Everyone has their vision for their RIGS. This means there will always be variations on what mods go on it. Calling this mod useless, or this mod not needed is an exercise in futility.

 

[KDWright5407]

Some incorrect information here. The 2.3 and the 2.7 alternators are in the same place. The 2.3 is not higher than the 2.7. The reason the Everglades has the 2.3 is due to the weight of the engine combined with the winch.

I run a 2.7, and no, I do not have a snorkel, but Ford did a change a while back, that put guards around the Alternator to help it with going through large puddles and such. I have taken my Bronco through mud holes and very deep puddles and water with no issues. People misunderstand the difference between FORDING in water and going THROUGH water. Also, a snorkel is more than just for water, dust, and other means are meant for the snorkel. The function is to keep CLEAN air to the airbox. The mod OG made to his snorkel is for CFM to his box. It's a good mod.

How people mod their RIG is what makes owning these vehicles fun. Everyone has their vision for their RIGS. This means there will always be variations on what mods go on it. Calling this mod useless, or this mod not needed is an exercise in futility.

Appreciate your response and clarification about the alternators.

 

[swamp2]

I'm very curious to see any evidence whatsoever that snorkels provide cleaner (less dusty) air to one's intake system in dusty conditions. It's stated quite often as a benefit but I just don't buy it. It's not like dust has a height sensor and billows it's way to 4' high but then magically steers far clear of 6'.

 

[Valhalla]

Lol, I guess with the younger more sensitive crowd I need to clarify, If you pose deep water fording in a vehicle that has a track record of not being able to ford deep water. I see that as posing or playing a part. I also mention it because new people come to these forums looking to do things. Let's be clear the post is about a snorkle. Increasing CFM was not the title. Lots of ways to increase CFM. I spoke of turbo engines and the longer pipe heating turboed air. If the OP loves it then great. If they put it on a forum and people discuss why they don't like it , that's OK to. IMO. I'm sorry that I'm older and don't see all of you guys feelings. (No sarcasm ment). I was raised in a time that words hurting you was seen as weakness. I'm not saying this is the best way just what I am. So sorry to anyone I've hurt by expressing my opinion. That being said, I'm not sorry for expressing my opinions.

 

[Valhalla]

I'm very curious to see any evidence whatsoever that snorkels provide cleaner (less dusty) air to one's intake system in dusty conditions. It's stated quite often as a benefit but I just don't buy it. It's not like dust has a height sensor and billows it's way to 4' high but then magically steers far clear of 6'.

Marketing to overlanders?

 

[swamp2]

Marketing to overlanders?

Hey, I do some overlanding too . And in a Raptor!

 

[Danielsand]

Lol, I was raised in a time that words hurting you was seen as weakness. I'm not saying this is the best way just what I am. So sorry to anyone I've hurt by expressing my opinion. That being said, I'm not sorry for expressing my opinions.

I was raised at the same time (you know....."sticks and stones"). I am called "The Asshat" on this forum, and I wear that title as a badge of honor. Double LOL!

 

[CitrusBronco]

I am not smarter than you. I often wandered the same. I have no "electrical knowledge", but I think that electricity and water don't go well together.

Auto alternators for the most are water proof-ish. They are not mud, sticks, dirt, rock proof and that’s what usually kills the alternator. The problem is when the water is full of debris that get into the alternator and destroy it. Clean water crossing good, muddy water not so good.
As another member noted the placement of 2.3 and 2.7 is near identical. The ‘25 2.3 now has a much higher alternator placement.

 

[CitrusBronco]

I'm very curious to see any evidence whatsoever that snorkels provide cleaner (less dusty) air to one's intake system in dusty conditions. It's stated quite often as a benefit but I just don't buy it. It's not like dust has a height sensor and billows it's way to 4' high but then magically steers far clear of 6'.

And you’re likely never going to see evidence unless you install one or you make a buddy with someone who has one.
I’m darn sure not going to take pics every xx miles and videos of the trails I’m on and open the air box and document dust just to prove to others what I know.
Since no one is trying to sell you anything, maybe you can trust someone that has experience with something you don’t.
Hell I thought these were just for hype and dress up before I got the Everglades, I even laughed at it when it was introduced, I got one because it was a heck of a deal and figured I’ll take the silly snorkel off.
But after I monitored it and noticed with the vent facing backwards my filter was no longer filling with dirt, bugs and leaf debris and never a drop of water making it to the filter it actually had a purpose.

 

[breaddrink]

Looks great... I'm still wondering how I can go about installing a snorkel to share the a pillar with my gobi rack.

I got my hands on a discontinued new in box Airaid snorkel then modified it to accept a Sy-Klone 9001 precleaner, I also fixed the Airaid to OEM airbox issue where Airaid did not provide a solution to seal the OEM box. I like the Airaid over the Mishmoto because it actually hugs the A-pillar, without that 5" gap that Mishimoto has.

I had the same precleaner head on my JKU AEV snorkel, and like the Jeep, there is no noticeable change in mpg using the sy-klone.

I got my hands on a discontinued new in box Airaid snorkel then modified it to accept a Sy-Klone 9001 precleaner, I also fixed the Airaid to OEM airbox issue where Airaid did not provide a solution to seal the OEM box. I like the Airaid over the Mishmoto because it actually hugs the A-pillar, without that 5" gap that Mishimoto has.

I had the same precleaner head on my JKU AEV snorkel, and like the Jeep, there is no noticeable change in mpg using the sy-klone.

Looks very good!

I'm still looking for one that will in any way be able to share the A-Pillar with a Gobi rack, while still being future proof enough that if ever I remove it, it won't be standing 6 inches out. (Not to mention retaining ditch lights there - though less worried about this. There's other options for ditch light mounting places).

I think the Mishimoto might be my best option as it stands away from the frame as is, and also has the option of retaining stock airbox, or upgrading to their fairly decent air intake upgrade.

I also don't mind how it looks. Not the biggest fan of the Bronco stock version.

 

[CitrusBronco]

Lol, I guess with the younger more sensitive crowd I need to clarify, If you pose deep water fording in a vehicle that has a track record of not being able to ford deep water. I see that as posing or playing a part. I also mention it because new people come to these forums looking to do things. Let's be clear the post is about a snorkle. Increasing CFM was not the title. Lots of ways to increase CFM. I spoke of turbo engines and the longer pipe heating turboed air. If the OP loves it then great. If they put it on a forum and people discuss why they don't like it , that's OK to. IMO. I'm sorry that I'm older and don't see all of you guys feelings. (No sarcasm ment). I was raised in a time that words hurting you was seen as weakness. I'm not saying this is the best way just what I am. So sorry to anyone I've hurt by expressing my opinion. That being said, I'm not sorry for expressing my opinions.

Discussing pros and cons are great,
I think 1/2 of the Bronco community here is 45+ in age and all of us that are know about mama’s advise & we can take a few jabs and It’s just good fun and be best of friends after.

Thats not what started the purse swinging, someone else just posting hate should have taken mama’s advice “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”.
Op needs to learn to chill a bit but kudos to him for bringing us useful content and fabricating something.
I enjoy many of your posts, I don’t have to like than all. Keep on keeping on Valhalla.

 

[Danielsand]

^^^ This is the right attitude! Kudos.

You know what......fuck it, I'm gonna buy a snorkel and install it. When wife comes home and sees it, she probably won't talk to me for a week. Fuck it, I don't want to talk to her much anyway.

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