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Hi!

This is going to be a heck of a first post to this forum.

I thought I'd share some pics of the central feature modification I've done for my Bronco, a '21 2 door Badlands I picked up recently certified/pre-owned, with about 18.5k miles.

Winch mount bumper builds hold several unique challenges compared to other kinds of projects.

1) First off, it has got to be really strong. Severe forces are exerted on these things. Breakage is major disaster.

2) You want to tuck the winch in as close as you can to the grill, and you want it as close to on-plane with the frame rails as you can muster. It should pull, not torque on the mount.

3) You want the bumper itself out of the way for the tire to make contact on obstacles first, and you want to minimize degrading the approach angle.

4) Next, it should be reasonably light. It's not for bulldozing stumps, but there should be protection, especially below bumper line.

5) There's some nifty tech up front worth preserving, like parking sensors and a seriously useful front facing camera with it's own washer hose, hiding between the "O" and the "N" in the grill.

6) Critically important: For the Bronco in particular, you can't choke the intercooler's air flow.

7) Less specific to bumpers and more of a general principle of designing things, it shouldn't be a puzzle how to assemble, disassemble and service the entire system of parts. In this case, that includes bumper, tow points, winch, lights and wiring.

On a previous bumper build, I did really well on some points but failed egregiously on others...

For reference:

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated IMG_6409 3


This is the winch mount bumper on my F350. It's got a Harbor Freight 12000 pound winch with synthetic line.


I give it an A++ on "strength".

The central portion is 3/16" plate. The pods on the sides are cut out of 4x6 .250 wall rectangle tube, and contain the mounting points on the frame rails. The frame rails are not as accurate as the bumper so it custom fits and *corrects* the misalignment deficiencies like a well made prosthetic. To get this, I assembled the whole thing with tack welds while on the frame mounts and then unbolted to burn it all in.

I give it an A++ on "tucked in"

The winch itself is mounted "foot forward" and is tucked up till it's almost touching the lower edge of the radiator, and I had to shave down some of the plastic grill and some of the metal from the in-gear/freewheel lever so they'd clear each other. The solenoid pack was installed within the passenger-side pod. The plug for the remote was mounted on an extension wired across to the driver's side. Viewed from the side, this sticks out no more than the factory bumper.

Here it is dismounted, when I was overhauling some corroded cables and replacing the wire rope with synthetic:

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated IMG_5347

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated F350 bumper inside vi

You can see the winch tucked in foot forward, the solenoid pack offset to the passenger's side, and the remote plug off to the driver's side. If you've got sharp eyes, you can also pick out that I've built a lifting adapter out of wood that goes on top of my transmission jack in order to detach and service this beast. That's because I get a D- on "light" and I get an F on "servicability". Everything important is inside. The weight isn't enough to challenge the suspension, but it's way more than I can manage, solo.

So... wanting to demonstrate my ability to learn from mistakes, I set out to make a bumper for the Bronco. Similar to the F350 build, the project started in the scrap piles at local steel vendors. I already had some ideas based on what was on my own racks, but climbing over the chunks and drops really gets me thinking. I settled in on a plan hybridizing some round and rectangular tube sections as well as some plate and some angle. Scrap steel is generally sold by the pound, and goes for about 60-65 cents per. Sections of useful profiles are typically 10-20 pounds, and sometimes more. At scrap price, I don't object to buying things I'll only use part of. I already have a lot on hand, so what I'm really looking for is other bits that come with new ideas about how to proceed.

I started by dismounting the factory modular bumper. This includes a unplugging a wiring harness to the parking sensors coming in on the driver's side. The factory bumper and cast tow points have slotted holes for bolts that go cross ways. The holes on the frame mounted bolting flanges go up/down. With these, you can "correct" the factory bumper to the body even if the welded frame is slightly wonky. My builds don't need that because I can fit to the frame as I go. For reference, I found no misalignment between the passenger and driver side frame mounts on the Bronco.

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated Bronco bumper off


The frame mount bolting flanges have 3 holes on each side, 2 inboard and 1 outboard from the end of the frame rail. Why not 4? No clue, but it's helpful in tapering the bumper up and away from the ground in front of the tire so I'm not complaining. 3 holes each side is plenty.

The end of the frame sits out proud from the flange surface about a quarter inch. There is weld on this side, so you can't just grind it smooth and make a flat plate bolt up across the front face. The factory cast steel tow point bolts right across this with a cavity on the back.

I actually started one plan to cut out a plate with a window in the middle to accept that frame rail end, and then welded a bridge across that, and then a tow-point on the bridge, but one thing led to another, the weight and complexity started adding up, and I decided this was a plan that was going a direction I didn't like. I started over. I went with sections of 1/4" wall angle iron to create bolting flanges, and left room to re-purpose the factory tow points and sandwich everything together.

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated Bronco bumper frame mount


The angle iron on top is a temporary piece to align the two flanges together internally and across the gap. Once bolted straight, these snapped off and I replaced with the winch plate.

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated Bronco bumper winch plat


I drilled it for the winch bolts, FOOT DOWN (lesson learned) so that I can remove the winch without removing the bumper. This is again the Harbor Freight winch, but the next size down, 9500# and I just replaced wire rope with synthetic at the get-go.

The basic plan here is quarter inch steel to the frame, then a 3/16" base plate welded to that for the winch, boxed into 3D with 1/8" plate, and .125 wall HREW rectangle tube for the bumper, round 1 3/4" and 1 1/2" to bridge and buttress across the center section.

Thus:

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated Bronco bumper center plate section


Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated Bronco bumper lower tube section


Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated Bronco bumper fit upper tu


Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper fit side vi


I'll break the post there. That's 10 image links. A moderator probably needs to verify that I'm not a troll.
More on this as soon as I see the thread is open for discussion.
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Continued...

So serviceability was an issue I really sweated here. I wanted to re-mount the factory parking sensors in their same relative positions and also run some crawl lights. I realized I would be fishing wires through the hollow sections of the bumper so after drilling the parts for the sensors, I drilled large holes for my hands and then shaved all the hard edges smooth and round with a die grinder so I could dig around in there without lacerating my hands.

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper sensor hol


Next I did the most nerve-wracking part of the whole build. I unbolted and popped off the factory plastic grill to get at the forward facing camera. Plastic body panels freak me out a little because the forces I have to exert to unsnap the connectors are easily enough to destroy them if I've forgotten a bolt. I got it off intact, so that's a plus. The camera is sandwiched in between plastic parts that mold to it's shape. Once it's out with it's housing, it barely hangs in there without falling out.

After diddling with a cardboard model to decide what a metal backing plate would have to look like, I came up with this and welded it to my upper hoop:

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper camera bracket


This is supposed to take the plastic camera housing and sandwich it. I also cut out a front mounting plate as an afterthought, but it was simple compared to this bit of micro grinding. Once the camera was in there I realized that I'd left half a millimeter of space around all the sides and so it rattled. Ultimately I potted the camera into it's plastic housing with a few dots of RTV and now it's snug.

I retained the hose fittings for the washer fluid delivery nozzle, but got a length of washer fluid tubing to extend out to this point. I ordered an appropriate two meter video cable. Please note that if you're going to do your own camera relocation, the connector behind the dash is MALE so your cable needs a female on that end, but then the camera itself is ALSO MALE. You need a female on that end also. I got M/F before I recognized this, and then had to re-order F/F.

After a coat of primer, a day or baking in the Phoenix summer, and a coat of pre-dawn cheap black rattle can paint, I started to wire the thing up.

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper pod lights


I cobbled together a wiring harness out of bits from previous Harbor Freight harness sections. Again - my scraps from previous projects come to good use.

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper light harness


Here's a test of my solder joint continuity.

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated Bronco bumper light test


Finally, the installation began

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper install 1


Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper install 2


Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated 752541-3a0032aa4615bb294fc6f42d0be12aa7


I should have taken a pic of the underhood wiring as well. The positive cable from the battery to the winch goes through a power switch that I bracketed to the side of the battery box for a clean result. The bumper lights are supplied by AUX2 (light bar is AUX1 - fuel for a separate DIY thread)

Final result including my "logo"

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That's about up to date on the bumper build!
 
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The links are blocked as filehost.
Fixed.

... I think?

I haven't posted images on a forum since Photobucket was free. Apologies about troglodyte status.
 

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Nice build! I can see it on my other device.
 

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OK, maybe you're not so good at posting, but your fabrication and welds look great. I like t
 

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Oops. My posting not so great either.
I like that the ends of the bumper slope back. Doesn't look nearly as bulky as most aftermarket bumpers.
I've tried welding several times, but my welds look like chicken poop.
 

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It may sound dismissive but, in many ways, welding is the easy part.

Some of my welds look great, and others not so much, but in my opinion, the secret sauce isn't in the welding, it's cutting and grinding. If you want to build stuff out of metal, you need to make this part your friend. There's a lot to this. It's 90% of the effort, and it's where most people who give up exceed their frustration limits.

I've had people ask me to help them learn how to weld. I've never had anyone ask me to help them learn how to grind!
 
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And some more pics...

I forgot about these. I was super curious about how my camera and sensor relocations would work out, so that was one of the first things I tested once I started fitting things together.

Here's the 360 view:

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper 360cam


This is actually a WAY better outcome than I had hoped for. It stitched the images together really well. I don't even see a break in the paver pattern on the ground.

Here's the parking sensors being tested with a trash can:

Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper left sensors


Ford Bronco DIY winch mount bumper custom fabricated bronco bumper right sensors


I moved the can around a bit and found I could slip most of it into a blind spot between front view and side view imaging but, by the time it's hidden, it's out of the way. The sensors still see it.


BTW...It's useful to know that the parking sensors didn't mind that two had to flip over for assembly. The stock harness fits two on the driver's side, pointing left, and two on passenger, pointing right. They're all the same part. So when I was re-assembling and realized that it would be far less difficult if the in-board pair were "upside down", I just snapped them in that way and they worked fine. Perhaps they have vertical/horizontal preferences, but flipped 180, they still appear to line up on those axes without blind spots.
 

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Hi!

This is going to be a heck of a first post to this forum.

I thought I'd share some pics of the central feature modification I've done for my Bronco, a '21 2 door Badlands I picked up recently certified/pre-owned, with about 18.5k miles.

Winch mount bumper builds hold several unique challenges compared to other kinds of projects.

1) First off, it has got to be really strong. Severe forces are exerted on these things. Breakage is major disaster.

2) You want to tuck the winch in as close as you can to the grill, and you want it as close to on-plane with the frame rails as you can muster. It should pull, not torque on the mount.

3) You want the bumper itself out of the way for the tire to make contact on obstacles first, and you want to minimize degrading the approach angle.

4) Next, it should be reasonably light. It's not for bulldozing stumps, but there should be protection, especially below bumper line.

5) There's some nifty tech up front worth preserving, like parking sensors and a seriously useful front facing camera with it's own washer hose, hiding between the "O" and the "N" in the grill.

6) Critically important: For the Bronco in particular, you can't choke the intercooler's air flow.

7) Less specific to bumpers and more of a general principle of designing things, it shouldn't be a puzzle how to assemble, disassemble and service the entire system of parts. In this case, that includes bumper, tow points, winch, lights and wiring.

On a previous bumper build, I did really well on some points but failed egregiously on others...

For reference:

IMG_6409 3.webp


This is the winch mount bumper on my F350. It's got a Harbor Freight 12000 pound winch with synthetic line.


I give it an A++ on "strength".

The central portion is 3/16" plate. The pods on the sides are cut out of 4x6 .250 wall rectangle tube, and contain the mounting points on the frame rails. The frame rails are not as accurate as the bumper so it custom fits and *corrects* the misalignment deficiencies like a well made prosthetic. To get this, I assembled the whole thing with tack welds while on the frame mounts and then unbolted to burn it all in.

I give it an A++ on "tucked in"

The winch itself is mounted "foot forward" and is tucked up till it's almost touching the lower edge of the radiator, and I had to shave down some of the plastic grill and some of the metal from the in-gear/freewheel lever so they'd clear each other. The solenoid pack was installed within the passenger-side pod. The plug for the remote was mounted on an extension wired across to the driver's side. Viewed from the side, this sticks out no more than the factory bumper.

Here it is dismounted, when I was overhauling some corroded cables and replacing the wire rope with synthetic:

IMG_5347.webp

F350 bumper inside view.webp

You can see the winch tucked in foot forward, the solenoid pack offset to the passenger's side, and the remote plug off to the driver's side. If you've got sharp eyes, you can also pick out that I've built a lifting adapter out of wood that goes on top of my transmission jack in order to detach and service this beast. That's because I get a D- on "light" and I get an F on "servicability". Everything important is inside. The weight isn't enough to challenge the suspension, but it's way more than I can manage, solo.

So... wanting to demonstrate my ability to learn from mistakes, I set out to make a bumper for the Bronco. Similar to the F350 build, the project started in the scrap piles at local steel vendors. I already had some ideas based on what was on my own racks, but climbing over the chunks and drops really gets me thinking. I settled in on a plan hybridizing some round and rectangular tube sections as well as some plate and some angle. Scrap steel is generally sold by the pound, and goes for about 60-65 cents per. Sections of useful profiles are typically 10-20 pounds, and sometimes more. At scrap price, I don't object to buying things I'll only use part of. I already have a lot on hand, so what I'm really looking for is other bits that come with new ideas about how to proceed.

I started by dismounting the factory modular bumper. This includes a unplugging a wiring harness to the parking sensors coming in on the driver's side. The factory bumper and cast tow points have slotted holes for bolts that go cross ways. The holes on the frame mounted bolting flanges go up/down. With these, you can "correct" the factory bumper to the body even if the welded frame is slightly wonky. My builds don't need that because I can fit to the frame as I go. For reference, I found no misalignment between the passenger and driver side frame mounts on the Bronco.

Bronco bumper off.webp


The frame mount bolting flanges have 3 holes on each side, 2 inboard and 1 outboard from the end of the frame rail. Why not 4? No clue, but it's helpful in tapering the bumper up and away from the ground in front of the tire so I'm not complaining. 3 holes each side is plenty.

The end of the frame sits out proud from the flange surface about a quarter inch. There is weld on this side, so you can't just grind it smooth and make a flat plate bolt up across the front face. The factory cast steel tow point bolts right across this with a cavity on the back.

I actually started one plan to cut out a plate with a window in the middle to accept that frame rail end, and then welded a bridge across that, and then a tow-point on the bridge, but one thing led to another, the weight and complexity started adding up, and I decided this was a plan that was going a direction I didn't like. I started over. I went with sections of 1/4" wall angle iron to create bolting flanges, and left room to re-purpose the factory tow points and sandwich everything together.

Bronco bumper frame mount.webp


The angle iron on top is a temporary piece to align the two flanges together internally and across the gap. Once bolted straight, these snapped off and I replaced with the winch plate.

Bronco bumper winch plate.webp


I drilled it for the winch bolts, FOOT DOWN (lesson learned) so that I can remove the winch without removing the bumper. This is again the Harbor Freight winch, but the next size down, 9500# and I just replaced wire rope with synthetic at the get-go.

The basic plan here is quarter inch steel to the frame, then a 3/16" base plate welded to that for the winch, boxed into 3D with 1/8" plate, and .125 wall HREW rectangle tube for the bumper, round 1 3/4" and 1 1/2" to bridge and buttress across the center section.

Thus:

Bronco bumper center plate section.webp


Bronco bumper lower tube section.webp


Bronco bumper fit upper tube.webp


bronco bumper fit side view.webp


I'll break the post there. That's 10 image links. A moderator probably needs to verify that I'm not a troll.
More on this as soon as I see the thread is open for discussion.
Awesome job my friend! Welding too!!! I always admire ppl with the ability to sculpt metal! Kudos!!👍😍
 

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Very nice. Good to see someone grab the bull by the horns and dive in!
 
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Not bad, still need to make or plate frame horns stronger.

That's an interesting thought, although I don't agree.

I did stare at those bolting flanges for quite some time. I'm not dismissing what you're saying entirely. These were designed by engineers, not garage shop fabricators. That means they're mathematically proven to be the cheapest wimpiest thing that could possibly be predicted to get the job done, before the risk of recall would negate the savings achieved by not doing it better!

One of the things I marvel at sometimes on 4x4's is how there can be big strong parts, but sometimes there's a point where it all comes down to some tiny little bit of material like one bolt that carries the entire load. Don't overthink this. It's an impossibly deep rabbit hole to fall down.

In this case its not even the flange which, I agree, is thin. It looks like the weakest link is the cross sectional area of the welds holding those flanges to the frame! The weld doesn't even go all the way around.

The problem is that even if I were to cut off those flanges and replace with my own versions made from 3/16" or even 1/4" plate, I'd be welding onto the frame rails that are clam shelled from two U-channels of 1/8" wall, and now I'll have a new heat affected zone right behind the old one. Have I really made it stronger? Or have I just moved the weakest link back an inch to where I've killed any heat treatment? Do I plate down the frame? If so, where's the new stress riser? How far back before the next weakest link is an engine mount?

I don't see any posts yet about people ripping off frame mounts while winching, so I *think* it's going to be OK. (please don't jinx me). The Bronco isn't the heaviest rig on the trail.

At this point, I'm pretty sure the first thing that fails on my pull is the synthetic winch rope.

Fortunately, I'm good at knots.
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