Bronco after 100k miles

[VirginiaHeritage]

Never underestimate the ability of rust to kill an otherwise mechanically-sound vehicle.

I got 13 years and 187k miles out of my 2k Tacoma before it was condemned by Toyota for a hole bigger than a quarter rusted through the frame. The truck still looked great, ran great, and was mechanically original except for a new clutch plate at 120k and a starter solenoid I rebuilt myself at 90k for $22 in parts. Even the undercarriage looked fine at a glance because I’d been touching up any visible rust spots on the frame for years. The cancer was in a hard-to-see area on the inner side of the boxed frame alongside the gas tank.

Toyota cut me a nice buyback check and sent the truck to be scrapped.

Overall, that truck was the best, most reliable vehicle I’ve ever had and likely ever will have. It died too young due to rust. I still sigh when I think about it. Don’t let it happen to you.

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[AntGar55]

My 22’ Big Bend, 2.7 has 83,398 miles currently. Just recently had the pro cal tune installed. Over the past 4 years or so, the 2.7 has required transmission maintenance (evidence of metal shavings), cam phaser replaced, timing chain replaced, routine oil changes and filters of course. Extended warranty has helped with the major work. Overall, the 2.7 has performed better than I initially thought it would. Good to see other Broncos hitting that 100K mark. I plan to keep my Bronco until the wheels fall off. Have too much aftermarket parts money invested in to it, plus it’s been the most fun vehicle I have ever owned.

 

[Marc L]

My 22’ Big Bend, 2.7 has 83,398 miles currently. Over the past 4 years or so, the 2.7 has required transmission maintenance (evidence of metal shavings), cam phaser replaced, timing chain replaced, routine oil changes and filters of course.

Good for your extended warranty, but I would consider that unacceptable. For the first 100k there should be zero items besides tires, LOF, and brakes. With a manual maybe a clutch at 80k+ assuming there was a design flaw.

We are just under 50k and have a 2.3L 7MT so a different situation. If I see anything prior to 100k I will be disappointed.

Now our vehicle is a pavement princess if you are offroading your vehicle then maybe I could get behind additional maintenance.

Btw our extended is 7 years/105k miles

 

[inlifefindadventure]

I can't last remember when gas was last $1.11 / litre! It's 2.08 CAD currently where I live - or 5.68 USD per an American gallon.

 

[AntGar55]

Good for your extended warranty, but I would consider that unacceptable. For the first 100k there should be zero items besides tires, LOF, and brakes. With a manual maybe a clutch at 80k+ assuming there was a design flaw.

We are just under 50k and have a 2.3L 7MT so a different situation. If I see anything prior to 100k I will be disappointed.

Now our vehicle is a pavement princess if you are offroading your vehicle then maybe I could get behind additional maintenance.

Good for your extended warranty, but I would consider that unacceptable. For the first 100k there should be zero items besides tires, LOF, and brakes. With a manual maybe a clutch at 80k+ assuming there was a design flaw.

We are just under 50k and have a 2.3L 7MT so a different situation. If I see anything prior to 100k I will be disappointed.

Now our vehicle is a pavement princess if you are offroading your vehicle then maybe I could get behind additional maintenance.

Btw our extended is 7 years/105k miles

I’m on dirt, hills, ruts as much as I can. My Bronco gets used and I push it.

 

[ducksface]

This thread is why I won't buy that oil/water separator thingy.

 

[msieczkowski]

Never underestimate the ability of rust to kill an otherwise mechanically-sound vehicle.

I got 13 years and 187k miles out of my 2k Tacoma before it was condemned by Toyota for a hole bigger than a quarter rusted through the frame. The truck still looked great, ran great, and was mechanically original except for a new clutch plate at 120k and a starter solenoid I rebuilt myself at 90k for $22 in parts. Even the undercarriage looked fine at a glance because I’d been touching up any visible rust spots on the frame for years. The cancer was in a hard-to-see area on the inner side of the boxed frame alongside the gas tank.

Toyota cut me a nice buyback check and sent the truck to be scrapped.

Overall, that truck was the best, most reliable vehicle I’ve ever had and likely ever will have. It died too young due to rust. I still sigh when I think about it. Don’t let it happen to you.

Yeah having lived in the New England all my life and seen it first hand as well I totally agree. I got a lanolin-based undercoating right away. I'd rather deal with a grimy underside than a rusty one.

 

[TPadden72]

I can't last remember when gas was last $1.11 / litre! It's 2.08 CAD currently where I live - or 5.68 USD per an American gallon.

That would have been 2017.

Tom

 

[Desmolicious]

This thread is why I won't buy that oil/water separator thingy.

pliz be esplainin

 

[ducksface]

pliz be esplainin

150,000 miles as a norm.
I don't need a device that their sales brochure tells me differently.
Really world info tells me;
If the device has value, the value is beyond the norm with the norm being far beyond my ownership.
I'm a fairly thoughtful guy but not so thoughtful as to spend money to take the 5% chance of protecting the third or fourth owner of my bronco many years from now.

 

[Desmolicious]

150,000 miles as a norm.
I don't need a device that their sales brochure tells me differently.
Really world info tells me;
If the device has value, the value is beyond the norm with the norm being far beyond my ownership.
I'm a fairly thoughtful guy but not so thoughtful as to spend money to take the 5% chance of protecting the third or fourth owner of my bronco many years from now.

ok so what you’re saying is that it does not need it for your use case scenario because the vehicle will last w/o it for the amount of miles/time that you will have it.
which is fair enough! I’m not defending the product - I’m not really sure what the real benefit is from a practical standpoint as you have pointed out.
And I think it is not even California emissions legal (where I live).

 

[ducksface]

It's why I wrote what I did.
Outside of sales brochure stuff or for the half percent of people who want 300,000 and not 200,000 THEORETICAL miles on their bronco...I'm totally lost on the why of it all.

Anyone can convince me otherwise and I'll sure buy one.

 

[MilesTeg]

ok so what you’re saying is that it does not need it for your use case scenario because the vehicle will last w/o it for the amount of miles/time that you will have it.
which is fair enough! I’m not defending the product - I’m not really sure what the real benefit is from a practical standpoint as you have pointed out.
And I think it is not even California emissions legal (where I live).

Catchcans/oil-water separators are intended to prevent carbon buildup on intake valves. The carbon builds up due to oil vapor in the air that recirculates through the PCV system and thus over the intake valves. The catch can attaches to the recirculation hose and cleans out the oil vapor. Buildup can be a problem, but is not an engine killing thing.

If you do get a bunch of buildup, you go get a walnut blasting of the intake valves for a few hundred dollars and you're good to go. Or, you clean the intake with chemicals regularly to prevent/reduce the build up. There are lots of direct injection engines running around (most engines these days) and lots of places that do this kind of maintenance. I am going the chemical cleaning service route, personally.

A catch can also prevent it, but can also cause majors problems if you don't empty them enough (every couple weeks or so in some cases). My opinion, which I am sure will draw ire, is they are not worth the trouble and risk compared to intake cleaning or dealing with the build up once/if it becomes an issue.

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