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Well after 2 real uses I am calling them junk. I would call them something else but they are not a step, helpful or a long term product.

Installed December of 2023 after coming back from Moab. First real test was Prairie City Wild Horses and I bent both sliders upward at the front body mount. They slowly kept moving so I contacted ARB customer service last month and I apparently forgot to install spacers. If they where perfectly level before wheeling did I really need to space them back down?
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Running a 1/2" body lift and rubbing the doors last month.

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Post 2nd real trail run the addition deflection is finally visible in the brackets. We will start with the washer, the band aid pretty much bent the lower bracket plate. If ARB had used a thicker bottom plate the washer might have worked. The science behind not let the bracket sit flat is the sole reason this deflected permanently. The 1/8" of deflection is enough to put the sliders into your door as it is a lever and you get more movement on the outside edge.
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Next is the smoking gun, the channel is spreading. Here it is at 3 7/8" at the weld and it gets wider in the center.
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Picture stolen off the internet of the culprit.
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Its also got a nice rainbow effect going on but I am really upset about the Bracket.
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I am calling them junk at this point, my factory rails took a beat down. These are a massive disappointment. ARB quality and lack of customer service are a good enough reason to write them off. Nothing like the ARB products I use to run on my Landcruiser.
Just curious do you have the additional skid on the step? I have jacked my rig up under the middle of the slider to where both tires are off the ground and there is some deflection . I guess do to the body mount and sheet metal they attach to but they seem to return back to the original location. I have them on a 2023 also. I did put the rubber gravel seal in between the body and step though.
 
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Just curious do you have the additional skid on the step? I have jacked my rig up under the middle of the slider to where both tires are off the ground and there is some deflection . I guess do to the body mount and sheet metal they attach to but they seem to return back to the original location. I have them on a 2023 also. I did put the rubber gravel seal in between the body and step though.
No additional skid. The deflection is nothing to worry about, steel can handle quite a bit of movement before permanently bending.

I am wondering if ARB used that world famous Chinesium Steel that never meets engineering specs.
 

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I am wondering if ARB used that world famous Chinesium Steel that never meets engineering specs.
This.

The best design in the world doesn't typically stand a chance against inferior raw materials... I can't tell you how many times I've seen an aftermarket component straight up fail due to the metal itself literally tearing apart. The welds were fine, but the base metal was just absolute crap.

That said, I do have to agree with what someone else already mentioned about the leverage and relatively small outrigger design on these mounts; I'd say it was destined for failure from the get to be honest.

Most of your posts seem to accentuate the notion that you are HARD on equipment... You might be the perfect candidate to get in bed with one of these outfits and R&D the crap out of design, materials, etc and come up with something really good. You need an agent :crackup:
 

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This.

The best design in the world doesn't typically stand a chance against inferior raw materials... I can't tell you how many times I've seen an aftermarket component straight up fail due to the metal itself literally tearing apart. The welds were fine, but the base metal was just absolute crap.

That said, I do have to agree with what someone else already mentioned about the leverage and relatively small outrigger design on these mounts; I'd say it was destined for failure from the get to be honest.

Most of your posts seem to accentuate the notion that you are HARD on equipment... You might be the perfect candidate to get in bed with one of these outfits and R&D the crap out of design, materials, etc and come up with something really good. You need an agent :crackup:
I’m his agent!
 

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No additional skid. The deflection is nothing to worry about, steel can handle quite a bit of movement before permanently bending.

I am wondering if ARB used that world famous Chinesium Steel that never meets engineering specs.
I guess my train of thought was different when I bought them. I needed a step for my wife. She is between 4'10 to 6'10 depending on mood...lol and I generally don't rely on sliders in the area's I am in right now. I have a jeep for that. But if I could have not needed the step, I would definitely go frame mounted slides, plated. And out far enough to step on to get to the roof. I really have not seen anything I would buy for that..
 

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What about some billet clip ons you could take on and off
I guess my train of thought was different when I bought them. I needed a step for my wife. She is between 4'10 to 6'10 depending on mood...lol and I generally don't rely on sliders in the area's I am in right now. I have a jeep for that. But if I could have not needed the step, I would definitely go frame mounted slides, plated. And out far enough to step on to get to the roof. I really have not seen anything I would buy for that..
Mine are frame mounted and i use them to get to my roof to put the soft tap bac, panels in it or whatever else
 

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Realistically if you want to wheel any rig hard, frame mount is the only way.
 

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How is everyone mounting to the frame since you can't heat Boron steel without losing strength/making brittle, which would include most welding and drilling?
 

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How is everyone mounting to the frame since you can't heat Boron steel without losing strength/making brittle, which would include most welding and drilling?
You can weld boron steel. You just have control the heat, a skip/stitch technique should be used, allowing the metal to cool after approximately 1-2” of welding.
 

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You can weld boron steel. You just have control the heat, a skip/stitch technique should be used, allowing the metal to cool after approximately 1-2” of welding.
Absolutely, but are installers capable of such work, I have my doubts about the majority of installers respecting this?
 

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How is everyone mounting to the frame since you can't heat Boron steel without losing strength/making brittle, which would include most welding and drilling?
The metal tech video shown above have frame mounted sliders that are installed with no welding or drilling.
 
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Getting some new frame nuts so I can pull them off and fix them. Figure I am going to band aid them so I can wait for some new ones. Going to probably cut the whole sider off and weld on a 2x4 steel tubing and a lot of bracing lol. Just not really in the mood to spend money when I have scrap steel in the garage.
 

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Closing the loop on this on my end, ARB replaced the rock sliders under warranty. I will keep running them.
 
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Closing the loop on this on my end, ARB replaced the rock sliders under warranty. I will keep running them.
I also received a new set, but I am moving to something else. On the Rubicon they pushed into the doors and I bent the rear bracket so the rear door wouldn't even open.

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