ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

[2023bronco]

Mabett is happy we're not talking about their rear-facing white lights, trail sights that look like they were designed by Ted Kaczynski with wires hanging out, and blatant knock offs of Ford's IP.

But at least Mabett delivers. If I said what I thought about China-US competition, I'd get banned.

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[Toccoa]

Sticking with the StarWars theme...

 

[BOLD Renegade93]

I love the new look of this thread!

 

[SierraBronco]

It’s fun to see where people are in their journey catching up on the thread based on what posts they like

 

[HotdogThud]

....We were given a prototype hard top from another shop vehicle to test out while the production units are completed. We knew nothing about any of this at all on any side.

This is why it's hard for people to take you seriously though:

this is from the ol' Instagram, from *today*.

I mean, you might not know them, but it's really weird that they know you, eh?

for the record, I don't give two shits that you guys have an OF, I have other friends that do too, to each their own. Its the contrived and artificial interactions that get under people's skin. everything feels clickbait-y

 

[Hokiemike87]

This thread has grown by 30 pages since my original comment and I have tried to do my due diligence of finding it here so I apologize in advance if this is being repeated - please don't dox me lol. I just found this angle interesting considering there have been screenshots released of APG mentioning that customers could pre-order via ADV website.


Reply from APG (ADV Fiberglass' production partner) attached.

On August 7, 2024, Advanced Fiberglass Concepts (ADV), formerly known as Glassworks Unlimited, unleashed a series of premeditated publications (in written and video formats) which unjustifiably attack and blame APG for their inability to deliver promises made (or refunds of deposits taken) to their own customers. APG cannot be blamed for the decision that ADV made to accept customer pre-orders and deposits for a product that was still in development by a manufacturer (APG). To be clear, APG never required or requested that ADV market and accept pre-orders of the Bronco Hardtop products. That decision was made by ADV and ADV alone.

ADV is not the designer or manufacturer of hardtop products that it apparently pre-sold to thousands of its customers. Rather, ADV was granted distribution rights for the hardtop products in anticipation of those products being designed, developed, manufactured and brought to market. ADV is just a distributor and nothing more. In fact, the lawsuit filed by ADV contains a copy of the Distribution Agreement between APG and ADV. There are a few key elements of that contractual relationship:

1 APG is the manufacturer while ADV is a distributor.
2 APG owns all intellectual property rights to the hardtop products, including patents. ADV does not have any ownership interest in those rights by virtue of its role as a distributor.
3 ADV agreed that all advertising and promotion of the products would be completely factual and conform to the highest standards of lawful, ethical advertising.
4 ADV agreed to adhere to the highest reasonable standards of business behavior, honesty, integrity, fair dealing and ethical conduct in all dealings with its customers and APG.

The recent publications and lawsuit filed by ADV is an obvious attempt to shift its customers’ focus from itself to APG. The agreements between APG and ADV did not require pre-orders to ADV’s customers. In fact, APG reserved the right and always intended to sell the hardtop products direct to its own customers, but only when the product is ready for immediate sale and delivery. Despite many customers requesting pre-order rights from APG, we made the responsible decision not to accept pre-orders or customer deposits.

This project has involved 2+ years of development, thousands of engineering hours, millions of dollars, and an international supply chain which has been cultivated over years of experience in the specialized manufacturing field. We did not set out to make a quick and cheap fiberglass roof with an aftermarket design strategy (as others did). We set out to do what we always do: manufacture the highest quality product possible… and that takes time.

When APG sets out to design and manufacture a product, we do not rush to market and we certainly would not accept individual orders for a product that is still in development. ADV made the business decision to accept pre-orders with full knowledge of the status of development. Any delivery estimates provided to ADV have been “estimates” and nothing more; ADV knew that. All major projects can have setbacks and delays; frankly, it’s to be expected.

APG was never informed of how many pre-orders ADV accepted. To our complete and utter surprise, John Gerwatosky recently told APG that they “pre-sold” approximately 1,250 hardtops. At an average retail purchase price of $6,800.00 (i.e. cost + tax, shipping, all options, etc.), that math calculates to $8,500,000.00. The real question everyone should be asking is what did ADV do with the money? We at APG have an idea of how the money was spent by ADV and its principals, but we’ll save that for litigation. The lawsuit filed by ADV is a transparent attempt at damage control by a distributor who needs to face its own customers for its irresponsible business decisions. APG will not accept blame for ADV’s actions or allow ADV to continue its charade of falsehoods. We categorically deny and reject each and every claim made by ADV and will uphold our reputation as we prove their wrongdoing in court.

While we are sympathetic to the customers of ADV, we will not break from APG’s dignity and ethics. We will continue to manufacture the finest 6th Generation Ford Bronco Products in the world and will announce the availability of the hardtop products when we know, for certain, that we can accept, fill and deliver our customers’ orders.

WOw spoken like the complete scam and fraud of a business man he is. Utter hot garbage. Both these companies will get what is coming to them...

 

[NatureMan]

Nope. Not gonna comment.
*puts the phone face down on the kitchen table and just goes outside, far away from the temptation.

Check your DM from @KillerPenz , he has a nice link for you.

 

[SierraBronco]

Check your DM from @KillerPenz , he has a nice link for you.

Turns out all those new OF subscribers that allegedly joined because of this thread was one guy that is now sharing all the screenshots with the forum through DM’s…

 

[KillerPenz]

Check your DM from @KillerPenz , he has a nice link for you.

Maybe I should charge for that link, get a little money for myself.

Turns out all those new OF subscribers that allegedly joined because of this thread was one guy that is now sharing all the screenshots with the forum through DM’s…

Who said anything about paying for an OF account?

 

[DriveAllNight]

 

[pakrat]

So ADV does a poll asking for feedback between three styles of top design. Either ADV or APG proceed to make a prototype of the most popular design.

APG is handing out preproduction units. APG knows nothing. Gotcha.

@APG
How about posting the invoices?

 

[NatureMan]

Turns out all those new OF subscribers that allegedly joined because of this thread was one guy that is now sharing all the screenshots with the forum through DM’s…

 

[broadicustomworks]

Check your DM from @KillerPenz , he has a nice link for you.

lol I am DM-less.
word on the street is he has the market cornered on the deets, tho.

 

[BlueWaffle]

 

[KillerPenz]

lol I am DM-less.
word on the street is he has the market cornered on the deets, tho.

Sorry, a little bit busy wiping my hard drive.. Feds are watching!

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/aux-switch-idea.99150/post-2309352

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