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Reminds me a little of BB and their website statement along the lines of Made in America doing otherwise will never be a consideration. Unless of course you want to steal the design from your partner & use China as the source to bring your cast iron portals to the masses šŸ˜ (Website since removed Made in America spiel)

Edit: Actual BB Website quote at the time
"quality parts made in the USA will never be up for negotiation. "
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NEVER! Unless of course we rip off the design of the portals we were distributing (and allegedly have an outstanding debt of $30k with) and have a cast skillet version made out of china while also preselling these portals to customers while having never tested the final product ourselves for any significant portion of time. But other than that…NEVER! We have values!
 

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All I know is I'm glad I got out in April (after waiting 2 years) and got on the TurnTop list.
Good luck to all who lost their money, I hope you see a refund in the future.
Exactly what I did. So grateful - and too feel bad for those getting pinched.
 

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Oh we got discounts for sure but that’s because of OUR relationship with companies. It was not because of APG. We used OUR wheels, OUR tires sponsored by nitto. We got all the armor and sliders from Next Venture Motorsports who sponsored us for years. Spicer provided the axle set, Baja Designs supplied the lights and that’s again All Due to OUR relationship with these companies and has nothing to do with APG or anyone else’s money so did we receive discounted or free parts, absolutely! But that’s due to our working with these many companies. Was our labor discounted from APG? Absolutely, why wouldn’t it be? We will be the only APG bronco being used and abused and taken to events all over the country. We are a business and have to operate as such but you can ALL be rest assured that no matter what we get for free or discounted we will ALWAYS be real and truthful and forthcoming with any problems, failures or changes that any of these companies or parts have while in use. Weather they are damaged from misuse or fail due to poor design or anything in between. ALL companies we work with are told that we will never lie on video about any parts failure or issues we encounter while testing the products.
This was just clearly bad timing on us having a bronco built but I still wouldn’t change a thing. APG has been absolutely amazing to work with. The products produced have been nothing short or amazing the the craftsmanship is incredible and top notch. When these hard tops are finally available people will be very happy with them. George is a stand up guys and only wants to produce the best possible products from his company. No corners cut and nothing left on the table. We know nothing about the dealings with ADV and APG but they need to work this out and I hope all of you get your products because you will absolutely not be disappointed because even our prototype is an amazing product and the little issues it does have were already addressed and fixed.
If you have anything else to say please just be respectful and kind and I have no problems answering anything you want truthfully but I won’t give time of day to anyone to just bashes or slanders us over baseless accusations.
And for the people who said we’ve done plenty wrong in the past… look in the mirror, I’m sure you aren’t perfect. NOBODY is perfect and nobody makes every decision correctly. We all make bad choices and live and learn.
I don't actually think you did anything wrong. You are a silly youtuber who figured out how to make $ out of nothing. (kinda like seinfeld being a show about nothing) and based on your viewership, you get companies to give you their products and services at a discount to help promote them. You are clean on that.
I just won't watch your videos because I find your whole angle to be not my flavor, but clearly many do.. I think you should just back down from the BS and not get involved.. while I have ADV fenders on my rig, I DO think the APG ones are much hotter, just weren't out, or I didn't know about them yet.

I also do think that that APG has done something underhanded because this all doesn't add up, and somewhere between their PR & the ADV lawsuit, lies the truth. None of which is your fault or responsibility to clean up.
 

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Several pages ago, someone mentioned a ā€œmeltdown over on the facebook group pageā€œ. Anyone know what facebook group it is? (Is it just Advanced Fiberglass Concepts?). I’m in the mood for more popcorn.
 

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Several pages ago, someone mentioned a ā€œmeltdown over on the facebook group pageā€œ. Anyone know what facebook group it is? (Is it just Advanced Fiberglass Concepts?). I’m in the mood for more popcorn.
If I remember right that particular meltdown was unrelated to this topic, but found its way to the thread. Lady is convinced that women are treated negatively when asking questions. Turns out she just gets upset whenever something is explained to her in a way that thoroughly answers her questions. She literally started a new thread in this forum to invite women to her new women’s only fb group. Her name was used in a reply (she had it on her profile here) and she lost her mind about it. I look up the group. No filtering questions, automatic approval to any request. Where she’s the mod under her same name and a link to her facey page with the rest of her personal information she chose to share with the world. I came back to the forum to give her examples of how easy she’s made it to locate her based on everything she’s provided, and how she could improve her security for the sake of herself and her group members - she lost her mind. Said I was threatening her. Was lashing out at other members with varying levels of pre-pubescent insults. Absolute victim mentality with a helping of medications. She deleted the thread and left the forum.

Blondie’s bronco gals or babes. Something like that.
 

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I’ve learned some cool stuff from them as well. Yeah they’ll promote products like anyone that’s paid/given heavy discounts to do so and it’s up to the consumer to do further research from there. I’d never trust the opinion of someone on a product that is being paid to promote that specific product, just like I wouldn’t trust the opinion on what car to buy when talking to a brand loyalist. That’s the unfortunate part about how successful broncbuster’s influencer partnerships have been. So many trusting the word of someone that’s being paid or given free products to push that item.
We’re paid by absolutely NOBODY!!!
 

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If I remember right that particular meltdown was unrelated to this topic, but found its way to the thread. Lady is convinced that women are treated negatively when asking questions. Turns out she just gets upset whenever something is explained to her in a way that thoroughly answers her questions. She literally started a new thread in this forum to invite women to her new women’s only fb group. Her name was used in a reply (she had it on her profile here) and she lost her mind about it. I look up the group. No filtering questions, automatic approval to any request. Where she’s the mod under her same name and a link to her facey page with the rest of her personal information she chose to share with the world. I came back to the forum to give her examples of how easy she’s made it to locate her based on everything she’s provided, and how she could improve her security for the sake of herself and her group members - she lost her mind. Said I was threatening her. Was lashing out at other members with varying levels of pre-pubescent insults. Absolute victim mentality with a helping of medications. She deleted the thread and left the forum.

Blondie’s bronco gals or babes. Something like that.
Thanks. That sounds like people that I generally try to avoid. Good to know.
 

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We’re paid by absolutely NOBODY!!!
I support your business model and niche. But whether or not you pay cash for a $1000 widget, get 50% off the widget or get it free, its ā€˜paid’, you are being PAID.

i mean transferring, trading, buying, etc… its trading goods .

nothing is ā€˜free’
 

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