ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

[604Bronco]

Hmmm, I had my suspicions on this....the lack of work force was an oversea work force

After watching the newish video there was a lot of "back to the drawing board" scenario and delays with the top..

Also explains why they weren't shipping out tops as they were completed. Makes no sense to do so financially if they're coming from elsewhere.

Just wish there'd be more transparency with this, as they seem to be avoiding the conversation. Most folks won't care where they're made, they just want to know where their product is being built is all.

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[IwannaGOfast]

Also explains why they weren't shipping out tops as they were completed. Makes no sense to do so financially if they're coming from elsewhere.

Just wish there'd be more transparency with this, as they seem to be avoiding the conversation. Most folks won't care where they're made, they just want to know where their product is being built is all.

If you are buying a product that you are told is being built completely in house in the USA, it helps justify a $6k+ price tag. If that same product you thought you were buying you later found out was being manufactured elsewhere, it would definitely effect my opinion on it and the price tag that goes with it.

However these are all just conspiracies like most of this thread is. Which ADV is entirely to blame for because their lack of communication and extremely vague statements that began once they had delivery/supply issues. In the beginning when they were hyping the product and then started collecting deposits they were very communicative and posted on here regularly.

 

[pakrat]

Also explains why they weren't shipping out tops as they were completed. Makes no sense to do so financially if they're coming from elsewhere.

Just wish there'd be more transparency with this, as they seem to be avoiding the conversation. Most folks won't care where they're made, they just want to know where their product is being built is all.

It does make more sense now. Of course this is still speculation but it does make sense that they are not shipping any because they don't have them to ship (maybe they have finally arrived who knows). Basically batches will be coming in shipping containers it seems like.

I guess they didn't want to tell us that they were manufacturing overseas? Very pricey in consideration. $7k+ was acceptable for a product being built in house in CA by employees being paid CA wages, not by foreign workers getting paid pennies for the same work. I'm not sure if this info would have swayed me from cancelling or not but had they said they were waiting on their manufacturer to get the tooling and process dialed in on the other side of the globe well at least the massive delay would have made sense and they would not look like some fly by night amateur outfit. Really feel lied to about the whole thing and the quality is priority one bit. In fact it was all a story about supply chain/QC/labor problems. Just my opinion, but it would be pretty hard to stomach putting extra profits into the owners pockets after being told a lie for the last 18 months.

TO did a great job of describing how/where/when their tops will be manufactured. The price point is nice also.

 

[B_Wagon136]

If you are buying a product that you are told is being built completely in house in the USA, it helps justify a $6k+ price tag. If that same product you thought you were buying you later found out was being manufactured elsewhere, it would definitely effect my opinion on it and the price tag that goes with it.

However these are all just conspiracies like most of this thread is. Which ADV is entirely to blame for because their lack of communication and extremely vague statements that began once they had delivery/supply issues. In the beginning when they were hyping the product and then started collecting deposits they were very communicative and posted on here regularly.

An introduction to Occam's razor would do you well. A made in china top -- which is far more the simplest conclusion at this point than conspiracy -- at this pricetag is a serious red flag, before even considering the lack of transparency..

Lesser quality standards and cheaper materials. We're talking about plastic and rubber here that is going to cook in hot vehicles that will sit out in the sun for hours or days once installed. Cheaper product almost always means higher concentration of adverse chemicals.

We've long known the shortcomings of the OEM top. Now it's clear what the tradeoff is with ADV's. The only question left to answer: How lucky do you feel?

 

[BroncoBoy22]

If it’s truly manufactured overseas which it seems like is highly likely at this point, I’ll wait for the Mabett version at Mabett prices

Jk I have an Anderson on order, but if one did pop up at a better price before my top comes in it would be hard to say no

 

[CTwaterfowler]

An introduction to Occam's razor would do you well. A made in china top -- which is far more the simplest conclusion at this point than conspiracy -- at this pricetag is a serious red flag, before even considering the lack of transparency..

Lesser quality standards and cheaper materials. We're talking about plastic and rubber here that is going to cook in hot vehicles that will sit out in the sun for hours or days once installed. Cheaper product almost always means higher concentration of adverse chemicals.

We've long known the shortcomings of the OEM top. Now it's clear what the tradeoff is with ADV's. The only question left to answer: How lucky do you feel?

i hope that if it is in fact made in China, that they would have to follow ADVs standard for manufacturing the top. If i remember correctly, one of the first delays was that ADV didnt like the original molding and upgraded to a higher grade.

HOWEVER, all cards are off the table if it is China and they make a knock-off version of the top and sell it under another label THATS WHERE I BELIEVE YOU WILL SEE QUALITY DROP.
So, i put my faith that ADV will enforce the quality that they are know for in THE TOPS THEY SELL.

 

[Kjbeggs]

So, last year we were all just waiting for the fabled "rubber" to arrive at ADV headquarters, on what we all assumed was a slow boat from China...
Now, it sounds like that was never the case at all. I wonder if the original rubber they rejected was from a Chinese manufacturer, so they pivoted to one in the US, and then had to ship that TO China?
Curiouser and curiouser...

I cannot wait for the eventual Netflix Documentary about the ADV Hardtop conspiracy...

 

[IwannaGOfast]

Fiberglass companies like Fiberwerx and McNeil Racing are located down in the San Diego area and their products are manufactured across the border in Mexico. That could also be another possibility to add to the conspiracies within this thread.

 

[Kjbeggs]

Fiberglass companies like Fiberwerx and McNeil Racing are located down in the San Diego area and their products are manufactured across the border in Mexico. That could also be another possibility to add to the conspiracies within this thread.

That's where the Turn Off-Road tops are manufactured. and they have no problem sharing that info with potential customers.

 

[B_Wagon136]

That ain't English.

More Chinese characters from the vid...

 

[CTwaterfowler]

More Chinese characters from the vid...

I take your word for it . I can't make anything out.

 

[CTwaterfowler]

I take your word for it . I can't make anything out.

By the way. If anybody has noticed, my anxiety level has plummeted, another waterfowl season without my hard top and backup lights is in the shitter. I gave up

 

[Dadsquatch]

What a scam!

A Rally Top at $4k isn't looking so bad after all. And it's AVAILABLE. They also re-designed their back window (see pic below) which was a big turn off for many. I'm not saying this is a good top, but it's the cheapest, available, and would work for many who just need a seasonal hard top.

Ford Bronco Hardtop for 4 Door Broncos 2 Piece Top (2021-Present) (rallytops.com)

 

[DBC Offroad]

Have ANY of the order holders gotten a hardtop yet?

 

[BroncoBoy22]

Have ANY of the order holders gotten a hardtop yet?

NOPE

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