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The Stroppe should have been a Rap not a Paint, as I don't care for the color combination, but would have definitely bought one if the Rap could have easily been removed.

Ford definitely missed some low hanging fruit with what they're currently offering for the 2026. They could EASILY offer as an option the Square Fenders on the 2D (since they did away with the 2D Heritage).

I've been on this forum since 2019..... (this is what I have been waiting for or the Cliffhanger 2D)
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....and year after year I continue to be saddened by the decision being made at Ford. Hopefully now that the current powers that be have rolled back the CAFE & EPA requirements, Ford will finally offer a vehicle that doesn't rely on a bunch of Electronic Modules to meet those requirements.

Stepping off of my soapbox now....
The problem with a wrap (and I know the hood is wrapped) is that every few years it needs to be peeled off and redone, To prevent the wrap becoming almost permanently affixed as it starts to crack and degrade.
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The problem with a wrap (and I know the hood is wrapped) is that every few years it needs to be peeled off and redone, To prevent the wrap becoming almost permanently affixed as it starts to crack and degrade.
Well..... as Decals then...
 

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The Stroppe should have been a Rap not a Paint, as I don't care for the color combination, but would have definitely bought one if the Rap could have easily been removed.

Ford definitely missed some low hanging fruit with what they're currently offering for the 2026. They could EASILY offer as an option the Square Fenders on the 2D (since they did away with the 2D Heritage).
If it was a wrap even more people would have complained about it.

Looks like Ford is reserving the square fenders for their limited or special editions.
 

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They have power mirrors. The guy youre replying to means power folding mirrors. As in the ones that fold in and out with the push of a button.

They are power when you adjust the view, not manual.
Thank you for clarifying that for me. Manual folding then right?
 

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The Stroppe should have been a Rap not a Paint, as I don't care for the color combination, but would have definitely bought one if the Rap could have easily been removed.

Ford definitely missed some low hanging fruit with what they're currently offering for the 2026. They could EASILY offer as an option the Square Fenders on the 2D (since they did away with the 2D Heritage).

I've been on this forum since 2019..... (this is what I have been waiting for or the Cliffhanger 2D)
Screenshot_20240712_200721_Facebook.webp
....and year after year I continue to be saddened by the decision being made at Ford. Hopefully now that the current powers that be have rolled back the CAFE & EPA requirements, Ford will finally offer a vehicle that doesn't rely on a bunch of Electronic Modules to meet those requirements.

Stepping off of my soapbox now....
Those emmision control modules saved many lives as well as cleaning up the air. Take a look at some of the old pictures of places like LA, Denver, during a tume when the air was so dirty you would need radar ro drive in the way people drive today.
 

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You can order a 2 door Jeep with 35's? Didn't know that was a thing 🤷
I did, the Xtreme recon with a lift and 35's in JOOSE (Orange). Traded my 2023 Wildtrak for it and what a joke. I feel the Jeep was a lemon. 2nd Jeep "lemon" I have had in the last few years. Horrible. Had it at the dealer 4 times. same issues kept coming back and dealer just said they did all they can do. Then the AUX battery died (new vehicle) and caused all kinds of issues. Had it fixed again and then sold it to Carmax with 2500 miles on it, went back to another Bronco. I've driven Jeep Wranglers for the last 30 years. Never again. The Jeep Xtreme Recon feels like a tin can after driving it for some time, horrible suspension and steering is worse than ever. I lost $7k but was happy to dump that POS. My old WT had issues as well after 15k miles. Camera went out (recall), rear window defrosters just fell off and a couple of other issues (shocks, electrical). I thought it was bad but nothing like the 2025 Jeep. Silly me ended up buying a new 2024 Heritage Limited as it was $10k off and it was my OG dream Bronco and I got 4% interest rate. So far I put just 1100 miles on it and the truck was out of alignment when I drove it home (drove 2 hours to get it) and I had it aligned (had to pay) at a dealer near me.

In any case, I am keeping the Heritage as I will use the warranty to fix whatever is wrong with it or goes wrong. May buy an extended...but I will never buy another Jeep as it was so much worse in all categories. Reliability, drivability, comfort and it felt so cheap, like a tin box. Jeep is no where near what they used to be.
 

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If it was a wrap even more people would have complained about it.

Looks like Ford is reserving the square fenders for their limited or special editions.
Perhaps with trims/special editions it's all semantics, but the Everglades fenders have now have been on 4 different trims, only the HLE was a special edition (limited number), as far as I see it, all the rest where simply trims, and trims come and go. For years, the Badlands had feature unique to only it (disco), and it was always called a trim, yet the Stroppe which is mostly an appearance package, which wasn't limited in sales, is often called an special edition by it's owners.:unsure:
As to my special edition Base, with non-tinted windows and special seat covers, never offered on any other special editions, I'm glad I got it when it was available with the 2.7.
 
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You forgot to add, $5k price increase on all trims, that sounds about right.
Not ture at all. Zero increase on the raptor….. however about one to two months ago the black painted hardtop went from 600 to 1250!!!
 

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Perhaps with trims/special editions it's all semantics, but the Everglades fenders have now have been on 4 different trims, only the HLE was a special edition (limited number), as far as I see it, all the rest where simply trims, and trims come and go. For years, the Badlands had feature unique to only it (disco), and it was always called a trim, yet the Stroppe which is mostly an appearance package, which wasn't limited in sales, is often called an special edition by it's owners.:unsure:
As to my special edition Base, with non-tinted windows and special seat covers, never offered on any other special editions, I'm glad I got it when it was available with the 2.7.
There is a reason I said limited and special editions.
The HLE is a limited edition.
The Everglades, Heritage, and Stroppe are special editions.
Everglades got the factory snorkel, winch, and wheels... That weren't available on any other models. The wheels are now.
The Heritage got its dedicated interior, wheels, and mod top. The mod top is now available.
The Stroppe gets a dedicated paint scheme and wheels.

They were not a limited production number, but they were low production in comparison to the other trims.
 

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There is a reason I said limited and special editions.
The HLE is a limited edition.
The Everglades, Heritage, and Stroppe are special editions.
Everglades got the factory snorkel, winch, and wheels... That weren't available on any other models. The wheels are now.
The Heritage got its dedicated interior, wheels, and mod top. The mod top is now available.
The Stroppe gets a dedicated paint scheme and wheels.

They were not a limited production number, but they were low production in comparison to the other trims.
-Badlands (only special edition with disco for years (outside of FE), and and in interior unique to only itself, as well as unique shocks) Disco now available

-Wildtrak (only special edition with the new rack, Fox shocks, dedicated wheels and interior unique to itself, as well as Baja mode, rear stabilizer bar) The rack and Fox shocks, and staybar now available

OBX (only special edition available with painted trim) perhaps once that was a WT thing also

Did the HE edition have low production numbers? It certainly outsold the Base.

To me they are all just trims, outside the limited and FE.
 

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The Stroppe was a nice bone to throw the geezers but a 4 door? So dumb. What the actual fck are you thinking, Ford? And is a 2 door Raptor really too much to ask? Or even a 6 cylinder engine paired with a manual tranny?

I’ll tell you this much: if we see the day where you can’t order a Bronco with two doors and a stick then Ford might as well just sell electric Scouts to suburban soccer moms and call it a day.
 

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Yeah......the cloth seats I'd pass on to be honest, MGV holds up so much better to sand/salt, etc. Soft top I wish Bestop would come out with a squared off soft top instead of the Slant Back. Mojito is a cool color, but if you want a manual, Bronco is the only way to go.
Nah. I've seen enough of MGV in boats to know how it holds up, not to mention plenty of folks on here having issues. I've learned cloth is the ticket in a (potentially) topless vehicle.

I’d say it depends on preference. Not sure where you got the idea that MGV will hold up better, they may stain less. I’ve had my cloth seats since 22 with dogs jumping on them getting in and out everyday and they’re still great, they don’t get hot in the sun or freezing cold in the winter like MGV. I also added the carhart seat covers which are easy to clean and keep the cloth clean in muddy months. Tho the cloth is super easy to clean as well. I had vinyl seats in my first car 2 door Tahoe and they would freeze some mornings
Yep. Vinyl sucks when it's hot, and sucks when it's cold.
 

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Nah. I've seen enough of MGV in boats to know how it holds up, not to mention plenty of folks on here having issues. I've learned cloth is the ticket in a (potentially) topless vehicle.



Yep. Vinyl sucks when it's hot, and sucks when it's cold.
Cloth is better for comfort but vinyl keeps seats dry and the foam from filling up with dust and sand.

I daily drove and wheeled my 73 Bronco (no door or top) for well over a decade in the Mojave desert.
 

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There is a reason I said limited and special editions.
The HLE is a limited edition.
The Everglades, Heritage, and Stroppe are special editions.
Everglades got the factory snorkel, winch, and wheels... That weren't available on any other models. The wheels are now.
The Heritage got its dedicated interior, wheels, and mod top. The mod top is now available.
The Stroppe gets a dedicated paint scheme and wheels.

They were not a limited production number, but they were low production in comparison to the other trims.
Everglade edition??? ...missed that one. Would like to get one with a factory installed winch
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