2025 Bronco Order Guide Released!

[CMillBronco]

Where does it say Aux Switches will not be available on the Base? I searched the entire PDF for Auxiliary didn't find anywhere is said they will not be available on the Base or any other model. I'm not saying you are wrong, but this document doesn't say one way or the other.

Here's what it says:
"Storage — Center Floor Console Armrest, Glove Box, Media Bin, Overhead Console with Sunglasses Storage1"
then #1 is:
"1 Auxiliary Switches, where available, replace the sunglass storage."

This alone would tell me you could still get them but they're not listed anywhere in the equipment section, the "where available" is confusing but it looks to no longer be an option which is stupid! I have them today and like them a lot would order them again. Ford should raise the price a little rather than dumping them how much could some pre-wire cost???

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[bloominguez]

It's not about not having an open mind or being anti-technology. Adaptive cruise uses a lot more braking and acceleration than I prefer. If traffic conditions are bad enough to require constant adjustment I prefer to stay alert and be in control. Its great you like it, some of us don't and if you don't understand that who is it with a closed mind? Just saying.

I used to think the same thing, until I bought a new Toyota with their "Safety Sense 3.0".
https://www.toyota.com/safety-sense/
Then again, I never thought I'd buy a Toyota as a "fun" car, but here we are.

The Toyota system in my car does NOT use a lot more braking or acceleration, it is more gradual than other systems that I've tried. It does lane centering very well. It requires just a hand on the wheel. It just works.

I rarely use it, and I wouldn't use it in a lot of situations (particularly with a manual transmission), but when I do I'm consistently impressed with it.

No problem if it's not your thing, just know that these systems do seem to be getting better. I also know that some systems just aren't necessary--automatic high beams come to mind, obviously. I never understood why people like to blind oncoming traffic. Now *that* is a system I will NEVER use, and I disable it on any vehicle I drive.


Anyway here is some information that duplicates my experience with the Toyota system.

I Drove My Toyota Sequoia Across the USA (Doug DeMuro)

See discussion of Driver Assist technology around 3:20 of the video.

“Driver assist is basically the car’s ability to slow down and speed up automatically based on the car in front of you and its self steering capabilities. The Sequoia has what I think most people would classify as an okay system. However, for my particular needs it is a fantastic system, in the sense that I don’t need the system to change lanes for me, I don’t really care about that. I’ve never really understood why people care about that, I can change lanes on my own. … The two things the Sequoia does really, really well: Number one, it follows a lane and all you need to do is have your hand resting on the steering wheel. It has what’s called a capacitive touch steering wheel, which means that you don’t have to jiggle the steering wheel every 30 seconds to let it know that you’re paying attention. This is, to me, the biggest drawback with Tesla. … All you have to do is put your hand on the wheel and you can leave it there permanently, and as long as the car can sense that your skin is touching the steering wheel, you’re good. It doesn’t require a jiggle, it doesn’t require you to confirm that you’re paying attention, so you can sit there like this for a looooooong time, you can sit there like this for Oklahoma if you want to, and just sort of have your hand just on a corner of the wheel, it senses you’re there and you and Sequoia do your own thing. It also does a really good job of keeping the lane, especially on these rural interstates, they don’t have tight turns…”

“The other big thing, number two big thing, that the Sequoia system does well is stops and starts are really smooth. This was the biggest problem I had with my Land Rover Defender, I had a new Land Rover Defender and when a car would like gradually slow down in front of you the Defender would like get right up on its bumper and then slam on the brakes and it just, it clearly hadn’t been calibrated all that well. They had the feature, they could advertise that they had the feature, but it was not good. And in the Toyota it’s good. In fact, it’s smoother than it is in my brand new Mercedes station wagon, which is my other daily driver car. And so I find that to be kind of interesting, like the Toyota has actually a better capacitive touch wheel it has a better speed up, slow down thing, um, for driver assist braking and accelerating. So, with that in mind, that was a really great feature, because 3300 miles across the country, as you can imagine, setting cruise control and just kind of letting the car do its thing is really good. … you can kind of stretch out a little in the foot well and have the car kind of do its thing over long, long rural stretches.”

Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 Overview | Toyota

 

[voxel]

Anyway here is some information that duplicates my experience with the Toyota system.

After that review from Doug... I question if Doug even drives the cars he reviews for more than an hour or two. I joke that he will learn like many other Sequoia owners how crappy modern Toyota QC is... and to no surprise his tires blew out during his trip (the tires are a known issue) and his seat will break and volume knobs fall off as his interior rattles to death lol.

TSS 3.0 is meh. Ford's BlueCruise, GM's SuperCruise, Hyundai/Kia's lane centering and HDA2, and BMW's DAPP are better.

I can see why Ford didn't install BlueCruise on the Bronco - it's not a great road trip vehicle - it's loud, has poor mpg, and suspension is fine.... for an off-roader. I drove 95 miles out of 125 miles to Jacksonville - hands free in my Mach-E... heck... half the time eating Buc-ee's and the rest just chilling listen to music without my hands near the steering wheel. Modern tech is both amazing and scary.

 

[Sherminiator]

So I did some digging into the assistance that the Bronco has vs other products Ford makes.

It appears that there is only one level of Copilot 360 available on the Bronco

You get lane keeping and auto break assistance (ie warning before you rear end someone-not sure if it applies the brake or not-never let it get that far)

Adaptive Cruse Control and Evasive Steering Assist comes with the hi/Lux package

On the Bronco Sport, it has CoPilot 360 Assist+ as an option, which does the following:

Intelligent Adaptive Cruse Control and Lane Centering with Speed Sign Recognition
Evasive Steering Assist

So on the BS-Lane keeping only works with Cruse control engaged, on the Bronco works I think at any speed over 20 MPH or so, but only assists you in keeping the car in the lane vs driving the car to keep it centered in the Lane vs what my Bronco does.

 

[bloominguez]

After that review from Doug... I question if Doug even drives the cars he reviews for more than an hour or two. I joke that he will learn like many other Sequoia owners how crappy modern Toyota QC is... and to no surprise his tires blew out during his trip (the tires are a known issue) and his seat will break and volume knobs fall off as his interior rattles to death lol.

TSS 3.0 is meh. Ford's BlueCruise, GM's SuperCruise, Hyundai/Kia's lane centering and HDA2, and BMW's DAPP are better.

I can see why Ford didn't install BlueCruise on the Bronco - it's not a great road trip vehicle - it's loud, has poor mpg, and suspension is fine.... for an off-roader. I drove 95 miles out of 125 miles to Jacksonville - hands free in my Mach-E... heck... half the time eating Buc-ee's and the rest just chilling listen to music without my hands near the steering wheel. Modern tech is both amazing and scary.

I don't know about BlueCruise, SuperCruise, etc. I was just talking about adaptive cruise control. I happen to agree with Doug, I don't want all the bells and whistles of some of the other systems, I just found myself impressed with how well TSS 3.0 did the basics, including adaptive cruise control. Not saying it's the best, just saying that adaptive cruise control doesn't necessarily overuse the brakes or throttle if you have a good system.

I'm also happy that Toyota put TSS 3.0 on a reasonably priced (to me) vehicle with a manual transmission, so that's a win in my book. Compare that to GM, who wouldn't sell me SuperCruise on a rather expensive car, way more than twice as expensive as the Toyota.

 

[Beach_Bum]

Here's what it says:
"Storage — Center Floor Console Armrest, Glove Box, Media Bin, Overhead Console with Sunglasses Storage1"
then #1 is:
"1 Auxiliary Switches, where available, replace the sunglass storage."

This alone would tell me you could still get them but they're not listed anywhere in the equipment section, the "where available" is confusing but it looks to no longer be an option which is stupid! I have them today and like them a lot would order them again. Ford should raise the price a little rather than dumping them how much could some pre-wire cost???

We know that the wires are there whether someone opts for the AUX switches or sunglasses holder. It makes it easier from a manufacturing point of view to only have one wire harness and not a specific harness depending on options for each build.

So not allowing the actual switches would be even more incomprehensible. IMO, the AUX switches shouldn't even be an option. They should be standard equipment on all Broncos.

 

[XirallicBolts]

I also know that some systems just aren't necessary--automatic high beams come to mind, obviously. I never understood why people like to blind oncoming traffic. Now *that* is a system I will NEVER use, and I disable it on any vehicle I drive.

AHBC is terrible on the interstate, but fantastic on country roads. My usual drive to work is 20 miles of bendy country road with intermittent traffic, AHBC works beautifully to only have highs on when appropriate.

 

[bloominguez]

AHBC is terrible on the interstate, but fantastic on country roads. My usual drive to work is 20 miles of bendy country road with intermittent traffic, AHBC works beautifully to only have highs on when appropriate.

I'm sorry, but this is demonstrably false in my experience (with three different makes that I own and others I've driven). It may be fantastic for you, but I assure you the people you are blinding do not agree. I think automatic high beams are even worse on country roads, with hills, curves, etc. I see it literally every morning when I commute early enough (still dark), unfortunately.

When I'm on a country road at night and I see a car approaching in the distance, I can (and do) dim my headlights *before* the oncoming car comes around the turn or crests the hill. The automatic systems simply wait too long, your car (with brights on) is directly facing the other car before your lights are dimmed. It doesn't appear to me that they know the difference between an oncoming car around a curve (lights not yet shining directly at me) and a streetlight, a porch light, or any other light that isn't quite bright enough.

Then, once I pass the oncoming car, the automatic high beam systems wait too long to go back to the high setting.

It's simple to try for yourself. Watch when you see an oncoming car, judge when the car is about to come around the curve (when you should be dimming your lights) and observe the delay until the automatic system dims the lights. Same thing when passing the oncoming car, observe the delay before the high beams come back on.

I get it, not everyone prides themselves on their driving or cares about other drivers. I realize I won't convince you or anyone else here. But I'd encourage you to notice the delays I mentioned above and see if it doesn't change your opinion.

 

[XirallicBolts]

both my Ford and Chevy dim at the exact same time I would myself.
Sometimes yeah on a long, flat road it can take too long to determine it's a car, but I've NEVER had an issue with cars coming over a hill or around a curve.

Maybe it *feels* slow on a Bronco with signature lighting because it does a gentle fade instead of an instant-off.

A far bigger issue on the roads is that so many vehicles have poorly aimed lights -- especially work trucks.

Seriously, I retrofitted lanekeeping and ahbc to my Flex. I've paid VERY close attention to how the system behaves, since the modules are adapted from a Lincoln with some custom adapters. I don't just "set it and forget it", and honestly I don't appreciate the implication that I'm an inconsiderate driver because I let the system work as it's designed to work.

Keep in mind that being able to see their headlights doesn't necessarily mean they can see yours going over a hill -- your eyes and the camera are positioned higher than your lights.

 

[carlonyc77]

does anyone know if order banks for MY2024 are currently closed?

 

[C6ZZGT]

does anyone know if order banks for MY2024 are currently closed?

I believe so since 25 is open

 

[Timo]

Quick question, anybody not get 2 keys when they bought the new Bronco? Seemed weird a dealership i went to only had 1 key for a new car.

 

[Dreamer]

Quick question, anybody not get 2 keys when they bought the new Bronco? Seemed weird a dealership i went to only had 1 key for a new car.

Received two keys when delivered. 2024 model

 

[MNBigfoot]

Quick question, anybody not get 2 keys when they bought the new Bronco? Seemed weird a dealership i went to only had 1 key for a new car.

Should come with two. Also worth noting with 2 keys you can duplicate them yourself rather cheaply, it will cost way more if you only have one.

 

[Timo]

Should come with two. Also worth noting with 2 keys you can duplicate them yourself rather cheaply, it will cost way more if you only have one.

Great points. Thanks.

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