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BD 2.7 Auto and Sasquatch, unless you desperately want the sway disco. Sasquatch on BL does still get you the 4.70:1 gearing vs 4.46:1, and a slight factory lift. So just buying your own 35s =/= Squatch. I agree 4 door, you probably ought to get 2.7 in any trim.

From what I've seen, anything at or above a ~720-730 credit score will get you the top rates offered.

I'm going to give the local Utah dealerships one more chance (probably after B&P goes live) to commit to something within the realm of what Granger is offering. If they still act all wishy-washy, I will be transferring my reservation to Granger.

@Philly Thanks for the detailed response!

I'm not super versed in gearing, but from what I understand, any changes up or down from stock tire size would theoretically require re-gearing for optimization, correct? For example, the manual BL comes with 33" tires and a 4.7 final drive ratio but if you wanted to go up to 35s non-squatch...

So you're saying Toyota's TRD Pro setups aren't purpose built for off-road? Again, the quote is from a company, Sanoran Steel, that designs off-road kits for various Toyota models. They are of the opinion that sway bar disco is not all that helpful for IFS suspension. I doubt Ford came up with a...

If the Lincoln Aviator is a reliable indicator, it'll cost about $15,000 more for the Hybrid option.

The literal first line from my quote is, "Sway bar disconnects are not needed with an IFS suspension." So, no, they weren't just talking about 4-Runners. Thanks, though.

I understand what a sway bar does. The point I'm trying to make isn't that it won't increase travel but that that travel doesn't really matter because if there's little to no weight on the tire that can now droop further, you're not gaining any more traction than if said tire was hanging...

I think what they're saying is that, even with lockers, since one wheel will have little to no weight on it, you won't really be gaining much if any traction from that tire. In a SFA, both wheels bear weight at all times. In an IFS only one wheel is really bearing weight in a off-kilter situation.

Found this message on a 4-Runner forum. And yes, it is just some opinion on the interwebs, but I thought I'd see what you guys have to say. Essentially the argument is that on an IFS system, only the tire under compression will have traction since the other tire will have near-zero weight load...

There's a Lunar Rock Rav4 near my house and I was wondering how close it is to Cactus Gray. It seems to share some of the same qualities of greenish, blueish, or flat gray, depending on the lighting.

They have cubic feet measurements with seats down and up on the website. The two has as much seat-down storage as our Subaru Crosstrek, which I was pretty surprised by. It's also about 60% more space than the 2 door wrangler.

Are you the lockers gatekeeper? Lol, who cares what people spend their money on. Somebody wants a sweet looking mallcrawler, good for them. But if they do go offroad and get stuck, lockers might be the difference between getting out or hoping somebody with a winch/tow rope comes along. My...

Or I could tune the 2.7 and get even more of a beast...

I reserved a BL MT because I do like manuals. The dedicated crawl gear and 4.7 gear ratio also sound awesome. But the more I've thought about it, I too am starting to lean towards the 2.7 auto. Basically, I figure you're never going to regret having more power, but there's a good chance you will...

I know there's a least a few other Utah buyers on these forums. Have any of you had any luck getting dealers to commit to any of the deals we're seeing from dealerships like Granger Ford, Laura Ford, and others? I've spoken with two dealerships here in Utah (Larry H Miller Superford and...

@Granger Ford is leasing possible in conjunction with the x-plan/$1,300 under invoice? Or is that a purchase option only? Thanks!

Almost positive that you are correct. I've seen a few people mistakenly switch these.

I hope everybody that got these surveys is voting "No, I would not get that upgrade at that price point."