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Its at the top of the graph but ill add a Bigger Key to be more obvious

Bronco 2.7 vs F150 5.0 V8 vs Vs Estimated Bronco 3.0

Oook now i see. I agree with that 100% many ford dealers are doing the same with broncos to try to get customers to order their bronco threw them vs another dealer thats why i laugh at people complaining about bronco prices. Because they dont shop

thats why hes delaying the roadster and truck because of shortages. hed rather dominate the market with the 3 and Y vs struggle to make enough. i wish ford could have done that but before al these new models their sales and profits were in the toilet. They HAD to bring out new models

Its a smart move to go all software vs hardware. Now tesla has virtually NO hardware options or packages. Meaning they dont have 100 different configurations per vehicle

Link me because according to true car there is 1 392XR for sale in the whole usa under msrp and you can go back and look at orders around here. yes there is SCUM dealers charging ADM. but most arnt. Call around.

Yup. 30s = 29.6” 31s = 30.8” 32s = 31.6” 33s = 32.5” 34s =33.5” 35s = 34.4” 37s = 36.5” 39s = 38.5” 40s = 39.8” 42s = 41.8” (+/- 0.2”) on average most brands

Not that MANY people care but Ford Bronco at 70mph is 1940rpm Wrangler on 35s is 2090rpm

i was going purely on MSRP. 2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 392 with Xtreme Recon, Head liner, front camera, and doors off mirrors is officially $82,000 MSRP 2023 Ford Bronco Raptor is $69,995 MSRP. thats all i can go off of for now.

Official tire size 36.5” diameter 12.5” width 10.1” tread width. vs 392 recon or bronco Sasquatch “35” 34.4” diameter 9.5” width 8” tread width thats still 2.2” taller and 2” wider

What the Bronco Raptor has thats better than the Wrangler 392 Recon $70,000 vs $82,000 Turbos vs N/A Rear dana 50 with 4.70 vs Dana 44 with 4.56 Active fox shocks vs standard fox shocks 73” track width vs 64” 37” tires vs 34.4” what the wrangler has better ~10% more stock LBFT. (Est) lower...

382 XR is likely 5200+ then if you want 37s (2” lift) and dana 50 in the rear it will likely be 5500+ And im willing to bet the BR will have a better weight split.

oh absolutely. but yes. Longer trailing arms will help jeep a little. But i agree. Over all id take the ford hands down

Just did quick searches. 2” lift kit w/ tailing arms and connections $2,000 Active shocks $2,000 37” wheels $1500 so easily $6,000+ in just parts. For a active shock 37” wrangler. So $88,000 vs $70,000 ford

Yes but it still has relatively basic offroad suspension. Even with the recon pacakge. bronco raptor has active shocks, long travel long track with. $69,995 for the raptor vs $82,000 for a 392 recon make the jeep look a little over priced. Especially if you want to run 37”+ with active shocks...

True. But where on the east cost are you gonna need more power?

crank and wheel comparisons. 430hp 430torque estimated

i know its been a minute. But im back! my BIGGEST point of why i would MUCH rather have the 3.0 vs 5.0 is elevation! most trails are a mile high plus. n/a motor will loose 15%+ vs turbo. also heres my guestination 430/430

1 sorry I’ve been gone for so long. Big construction push before the frost. Crazy busy at work. 2 price will be under (MSRP) the F150 Raptor ($50,000?). But good luck finding one for under 75k sticker 3 Warthog? Looks more like a Puma... 4.. no. Normal shocks. Just covered. Almost every...

With the vast majority of orders coming in within the first 48 hours, makes me wonder how long those people who ordered after the first two days will have to wait... 2022?? crazy to think but it’s possible. ps. Sorry I’ve been gone for so long work has been CRAZY! Building season exploded...