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Yes- this happened a lot. “It’s my money- why do you care how I spend it?”. “ADV is a well known seller of fenders so we can trust them”. Etc, etc. No one wants advice if it’s not their own. Many saw the 100% down as an immediate red flag and slammed the brakes right then (myself being one)...

The 4Runner won’t actually start arriving until next year as Toyota delayed it. When are you looking to buy?

Man- I just started reading this thread from the beginning. It’s like watching a movie where the lonesome survivor slowly goes mad over time. Full fledged excitement slowly turning to concern, then questions arise, then anger, and then the realization that believing all the “delayed rubber...

Uh- I lost interest the moment they said “100% deposit required”. I’ve been outspoken in this thread warning people to get out while they still could. I wouldn’t buy a top from either company. Ever.

Who knew that I would be relieved to have a Webasto top! (At least until it melts apart atop my bronco)

So what will the total cost of the top be now? $7k top/freight, lawyer fees, more lawyer fees, buying an actual real top that is actually produced- $5k. Man this top is adding up quickly.

Yeah- that’s a pretty sketchy situation there!

Yes. Watch the video and you’ll see!

You mean the guy who said he smelled BS and then proceeded to order one? 😆😆

No one received a hardtop from them- other than 2-3 influencers who got them a long time ago. Not sure if you followed the huge thread about this top and company- but it would have helped you make a decision if you did!

Let’s face it- MOST buyers aren’t frequenting forums like this. Those who don’t are in for a rude awakening. Those that are on these forums and didn’t heed the warnings- 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ But for ADV to try and shift blame- especially after continuing to take orders as of 30 days ago AND telling people...

If I get time today I’m going to bullet point all the red flags in this deal. There are several! Uh WERE several.

I couldn’t watch the whole thing. “Here I am in 2022 telling you I smell the bullshit!”! Then proceeds to order one in 2023. They got lucky and got out early enough.

I mean- they asked for $7k UP FRONT for a CAD drawing. Paying that for a product that doesn’t exist is insane- don’t care what products they have produced and delivered. I was interested in the top- until they published the 100% up front non-sense. That is a HUGE red flag. People ignored it and...

Whatever happened to “tops are being loaded onto cargo ships this week”? Proof this whole deal was bullcrap from the first post asking for 100% up front. 100% for a CAD drawing and a promise of a product. It stunk from second one which is why I passed.

Well shocker! Not. I feel really bad for those who held out. BUT- several of us warned people many times this was not going to end well- and it didn’t. We were basically told “why do you care how we spend our money”. Touché. Hopefully lessons will be learned. $7k is a hard lesson to take. Good...

When I was a plant manager a few years ago- we had a product we made that had a carbon yarn inserted to prevent static electricity in uses where static could be catastrophic. Our customer thought we were too expensive (that carbon was over $45/LB) so they sourced the fabric in great ol China...