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  1. Badlands Vinyl vs Leather

    The Merino leather is next level. Even the leather smell is incredible.
  2. Badlands Vinyl vs Leather

    I really hope Ford uses a higher grade of vinyl than off road equipment and tractors.
  3. Badlands Vinyl vs Leather

    A friend of mine has a Mercedes. The leather in that thing puts all other automotive leather Ford uses to shame.
  4. Black Diamond vs Wildtrak

    I think B&P is glitches. The rock rails are supposed to be standard on the BD.
  5. Consumer Reports 2020 Reliability Ratings - New Ford Vehicles Perform Poorly

    That article makes it sound like the problem is the plant in Chicago.
  6. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    This is is where it is. I can see GVWR and GAWR below it. It's just not high enough resolution for me to make it out.
  7. Consumer Reports 2020 Reliability Ratings - New Ford Vehicles Perform Poorly

    I dont think any manufacturer sets out to make a bad vehicle. I'm sure they do what they think is necessary to make the best car, truck, or SUV that they can.
  8. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    Don't know about the white sticker. It's a little hard to make out. I've been asking some of the people who happen to find them out in the wild if they can get a look. Haven't had any luck so far. The orange sticker with the payload rating likely is referring to the tire load rating. A lot of...
  9. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    Someone posted this earlier. The payload sticker there indicates 816lbs.
  10. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    That's just it. We don't know that the GVWR is capped at 6k, or even if it isn't if that restriction is due to an artificial cap by Ford or whether is arises from safety limitations from a vehicle component. With that said, the prevailing theory has been that Ford has capped the GVWR to keep it...
  11. Learn about the soft top, video tonight

    The soft top is gona be louder than the hard top but not quite as loud as no top. But let's be honest with each other. If road noise is a deal breaker for anyone, the Bronco is probably not going to be for them. You have to be ok with road noise or you're gona have a bad time.
  12. What are you going to order ?

    4 Dr BD Shadow Black 2.7 Hard top Advance 4x4 Polished aluminum wheels Going after market on headliner, roof rack, and floor mats.
  13. MIC Top looking ...

    Yeah, I think a lot of thr early hate was based on unfinished prototypes. Grey (gray) is a neutral color that can match to just about any color. I personally dig the gray (grey) on SB.
  14. GVWR and general weight concerns

    I think it will be ok as long as people use common sense. I think the biggest issue is we have all this time to wait and over analyze the heck out of everything.
  15. What should I target/expect for pricing?

    That kind of stuff matters too. Ina time when everything is automated and a lot of our local dealers are just blowing us off because they think this car will sell itself, they way you all have treated us has been amazing. It is definitely appreciated.
  16. Cool roads from Stephen's auto center north towards pa

    Being from WV, I can tell you that there are a lot of awesome places to go visit. The best change depending on the time of year, but they are always awesome. I dont know the route they are planning to chart out, but if you are going through Morgantown, Cooper's Rock is a must.
  17. Is the towing capacity really that bad?

    If I'm being really honest, I think those same people would probably still overload the vehicle even if they knew the limits. And, it's probably not as big of an issue as we are making it out to be. I mean, even if you overload it 200 to 300 lbs, a catastrophic failure is not likely.
  18. GVWR and general weight concerns

    Yeah, no doubt. It's really surprising how much these things weigh. I wonder how long before someone puts one through the floor on a single lane country bridge.
  19. GVWR and general weight concerns

    Yeah, I think it will handle the rough stuff well unless you arw fully loaded at full speed. I think the concern has to be more with some of the individual components of the suspension. The axles and wheels/tires should be more than capable of handling over 10k lbs. After doing as much...


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