Stock tune on Bilstein 8112 is garbage; re-tuned with linear piston

[Tofudude]

Did you guys get the retest it after refiling/bleeding it out or did he go straight into tuning them?

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[Jakes22]

Stumbled on this and can't find them on his site.

Search bronco on the website and they're the first thing that pops up

 

[Valhalla]

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This link goes straight to it.

 

[Valhalla]

I still think this is extremely impressive technology, but I agree with Ian that I would not buy these with the stock tune from Bilstein. He is now offering them on his website pre-tuned with a linear piston. I'm eager to see if Icon and others that are coming out with similar zone control coilovers have a better tuning theory and steal market share from the 8112s.

How are they after more seat time?

 

[GetShifty_Bronco]

Bumping because I want to know the answer as well. Was pretty set on these from other reviews I've seen. Being able to get a tuned version for basically the same cost would be cool if it's actually better and not just confirmation bias.

 

[Valhalla]

Bumping because I want to know the answer as well. Was pretty set on these from other reviews I've seen. Being able to get a tuned version for basically the same cost would be cool if it's actually better and not just confirmation bias.

I reached out to Wheeling on price as well.

 

[GetShifty_Bronco]

I reached out to Wheeling on price as well.

He's got the 8112s on his site pre-tuned for $6308 currently. That's basically $300 or so over what most dealers are selling the stock ones for with a ton of extra work in them.

https://www.wheeleveryweekend.com/p...-8112-dsa-package?_pos=1&_sid=a8f9f0bc4&_ss=r

 

[Valhalla]

Yes, I reached out to make sure there were no hidden costs.

 

[23OBX2.7]

He's got the 8112s on his site pre-tuned for $6308 currently. That's basically $300 or so over what most dealers are selling the stock ones for with a ton of extra work in them.

https://www.wheeleveryweekend.com/p...-8112-dsa-package?_pos=1&_sid=a8f9f0bc4&_ss=r

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[crenca]

Bumping because I want to know the answer as well. Was pretty set on these from other reviews I've seen. Being able to get a tuned version for basically the same cost would be cool if it's actually better and not just confirmation bias.

That would be some work on the part of the customer. They would have to run standard 8112's first (and not just briefly - real time spent in all relevant conditions). Then they would have to run these tuned 8112's in the same conditions (very difficult to do - has to be done with a certain rigour).

On top of that, they would have to be unusually rigorous about their own 'subjectivity' and aware of what they really expected.

Really only a blind back to back install where the customer did not know which shock was which and ran the same roads/off-road course would probably ever get anything approximating an relatively non-biased, "objective" evaluation.

 

[elbroncodor]

How are they after more seat time?

They are awesome. Small bump compliance is softer than stock, but still get the great zone control so very controlled over bumps and dips. You get a little body roll tbut it still has sway bars so still very composed through turns. I take things faster than ever now with this tuning.

 

[elbroncodor]

That would be some work on the part of the customer. They would have to run standard 8112's first (and not just briefly - real time spent in all relevant conditions). Then they would have to run these tuned 8112's in the same conditions (very difficult to do - has to be done with a certain rigour).

On top of that, they would have to be unusually rigorous about their own 'subjectivity' and aware of what they really expected.

Really only a blind back to back install where the customer did not know which shock was which and ran the same roads/off-road course would probably ever get anything approximating an relatively non-biased, "objective" evaluation.

I ran stock 8112s with no tuning for 10 months before tuning. Now whether mine had a manufacturing defect (low on oil) is unknown, but bilstein has pretty good quality control generally so it might just be different tuning philosophy. But the difference since switching to the linear piston and wheeleveryweekends tuning has been night and day from before. And my wife is the ultimate testing equipment. No complaints since the switch.

 

[jofer]

This may have already been said, but all least for me (2-door), the spring rate is significantly higher than stock. Putting things on their softest setting does indeed give a horrible ride, but even one click stiffer makes a huge difference and really improves ride quality. They're still a touch stiff in some cases, but holy crap are they amazing at speed or just when soaking up bigger bumps at low speed! And my wife thinks I'm ridiculous for getting them, but does also think they're better riding on the street too.

I just don't think the softest setting is usable at all, at least on a 2-door. It's all spring with no damping. I have a winch in the front and the 2.7, so it's not oversprung overall, but it is still a different spring rate than the stock coils. The softest setting is probably designed for something heavier

At any rate, I'm really really happy with them. I've never had anything I can push quite this hard. They're a lot of fun in the desert anyway. (Seriously, they're pretty nuts, and I scare myself a lot, but still haven't found their limits really.)

 

[Jcrider48]

I ran stock 8112s with no tuning for 10 months before tuning. Now whether mine had a manufacturing defect (low on oil) is unknown, but bilstein has pretty good quality control generally so it might just be different tuning philosophy. But the difference since switching to the linear piston and wheeleveryweekends tuning has been night and day from before. And my wife is the ultimate testing equipment. No complaints since the switch.

I have linear pistons in my 8112s. I'm curious for comparison, what are your settings? Also, I have never care for digressive shocks for off road, even high speed.

 

[elbroncodor]

I have linear pistons in my 8112s. I'm curious for comparison, what are your settings? Also, I have never care for digressive shocks for off road, even high speed.

Wheel every weekend tuned with them 4 clicks in so thats what i leave them at. His tuning matters more than the click settings.

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