Stabar disconnect price

[johndeerefarmer]

what is stabar ?

Ford calls the sway bar a stabilize bar or stabar..

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[Felix808]

For me, the big question isn't between the BD or the BL, that seems an easier question, it's between a Basesquatch or a non-squach Badlands. If you order Basesquatch with the HD front bumper, then the only skid plate you don't get is the t-case and rock rails, which can be added aftermarket or buy the factory parts. The steel factory rear bumper isn't a big deal, really don't even need it and aftermarket ones are better. So, it ends up being a good amount of money to get the factory stabar, which is a real good thing to have. Damn, why are they making it so tough to decide.

Hey Richard, one thing I found out today looking under an abandoned Base order is that the Base does not have the fuel tank skid plate either. I know you've got fab skills so may not be a concern to you but may be to others.

 

[goatman]

Hey Richard, one thing I found out today looking under an abandoned Base order is that the Base does not have the fuel tank skid plate either. I know you've got fab skills so may not be a concern to you but may be to others.

Guys with base Broncos have said it's there.

 

[GoTigersGoBronco]

Option for option, a Black Diamond Sasquatch is within $3,000 of a Badlands Sasquatch. I figure a Badlands will book out for $1,000-$2,000 more when I go to sell. The effective cost of the LED lighting and disconnect is less than $2,000

 

[DREWR13]

Option for option, a Black Diamond Sasquatch is within $3,000 of a Badlands Sasquatch. I figure a Badlands will book out for $1,000-$2,000 more when I go to sell. The effective cost of the LED lighting and disconnect is less than $2,000

This was my exact thinking as well. Badlands will always pull a premium if I choose to sell later. Like the Rubicon's.

 

[Tonka1]

For those that attended the off-rodeos, this feature really stood out as a must have for frequent off roaders. Many who didn't have their vehicles in production changed to the BL trim and those that already had their vehicles or were scheduled for production wish they had ordered the BL with sway bar disconnect.

 

[North7]

I don't find any OEM Bronco parts listed on the net yet but was wondering what the stabar disconnect would cost.

Parts are Parts, parts are not integration...

(and please don't be like the lazy car salesmen that did not know it was called a Stabilizer Bar Disconnect and call it a stabar, it is not to late to change the title of this thread, please.)

Bronco Stabilizer Bar Disconnect Operational & Service Information

BWI Bronco Stabilizer Bar Disconnect Technical Information

I'll bet the factory stabar will never be able to be added later. It's hydraulically operated, so needs plenty of hoses and fittings and the electrical harness and control ECM. I really want it, but I also want the $6k difference in price from Basesquatch to do other things with. We'll see. Have to see how much money I have by the time the Bronco actually gets built and just do the SAS BL.

Bingo, with a caveat, some have pointed out they may try it and just use a manual switch to trigger power to the unit, however......... if it is a PCM, Can bus, or the like, that will not work, but I look forward to someone digging in to see what is possible.

 

[Felix808]

Guys with base Broncos have said it's there.

Definitely was not on the 4-door I looked at, maybe only the 2-door gets it standard. They had a 4-door badlands that did have it.

 

[goatman]

Bingo, with a caveat, some have pointed out they may try it and just use a manual switch to trigger power to the unit, however......... if it is a PCM, Can bus, or the like, that will not work, but I look forward to someone digging in to see what is possible.

Well, it is ECM and can bus, all vehicles are. However, maybe it can be operated by a simple switch if not tied into all the other factory stuff. Is the hydraulic system totally separate from anything else on the car? Looks like it in that pic. Has it's own electric motor hydraulic pump? Hmmm....

We still have much to learn. I'm REALLY looking forward to Off Roadeo in a few weeks. Lots of questions for me will get answered driving those things and crawling all around vehicles that will have been used for awhile. Also curious how stable and capable they are with the sway bar connected.

One thing we'll need to learn is how does it handle without the sway bar at all. When there are two lockers, stability is the issue and not traction. The IFS inherently has more stability than a straight axle, resulting in somewhat less articulation, but also resulting in less sway when the sway bar is disconnected. What would it drive like with no sway bar? I had a conversation with someone very knowledgeable in the industry, and he said we could easily remove the Bronco sway bar at home, tow it to Moab, and wheel all week and it will handle fine. Put the whole sway bar back on when we get home for daily driving. It's six easy to get to bolts, only minutes with cordless driver. Back to Basesquatch............?

 

[North7]

Well, it is ECM and can bus, all vehicles are. However, maybe it can be operated by a simple switch if not tied into all the other factory stuff. Is the hydraulic system totally separate from anything else on the car? Looks like it in that pic. Has it's own electric motor hydraulic pump? Hmmm....

We still have much to learn. I'm REALLY looking forward to Off Roadeo in a few weeks. Lots of questions for me will get answered driving those things and crawling all around vehicles that will have been used for awhile. Also curious how stable and capable they are with the sway bar connected.

One thing we'll need to learn is how does it handle without the sway bar at all. When there are two lockers, stability is the issue and not traction. The IFS inherently has more stability than a straight axle, resulting in somewhat less articulation, but also resulting in less sway when the sway bar is disconnected. What would it drive like with no sway bar? I had a conversation with someone very knowledgeable in the industry, and he said we could easily remove the Bronco sway bar at home, tow it to Moab, and wheel all week and it will handle fine. Put the whole sway bar back on when we get home for daily driving. It's six easy to get to bolts, only minutes with cordless driver. Back to Basesquatch............?

Correct, it is a self containd unit, aside from a few wires to interface to the Badlands.

 

[Jug]

Here's a quick lookup of one.
autoLYNX SWAY BAR DISCONNECT [Pair]
Regular price $395.00

As an innovative company, we want to make products that stand out by fixing known issues that are an irritation for the off-roader.

The patent-pending autoLYNX was designed to make disconnecting the sway bar much faster and easier:

• No need to fight a stuck QD link.
• No need to find perfectly flat ground to connect or reconnect.

To disconnect the sway bar, just hop out and turn the knob a quarter turn and then do the other side. Takes less than 10 seconds. It’s easy to turn and that's it. Hop back in and drive.

You can do this on relatively un-flat ground up to 4” of articulation.

To reconnect, turn the knobs back to the lock position and push the sway bar down until you hear a “click” and that's it. Only one side needs to be pushed down to latch. As you drive, it will automatically latch the other side. Your Jeep can be at full articulation to re-latch the bar.

 

[Ryuk]

I just installed this on my Jeep

It's Air Activated
Hopefully you can see the Movies as they are MOV format.

On the back side, the spade shaped arm has a notch that the piston fits into when it is off to keep the left and right side connected. When you turn it on, it moves the piston out and allows the arms to twist independently just like the hydraulic one on the bronco.

Maybe someone will be able to come up with a solution like this for the Bronco.

 

[mpeugeot]

If I was more educated at the time of my order and really understood all of the nuances of each build, I would certainly have considered an alternate build.

Don't get me wrong, I still am pretty pleased with the build that I finally went with, but I still find myself torn between a non-sas BL and a non-sas OBX. Especially after realizing that I could get carpeting in the BL leather package. Things that wouldn't change are the 2 door MIC, Lux, and Tow.

The choice between MGV, cloth, and leather trimmed vinyl is challenging, but the safe choice for the Texas heat was cloth. The choice between carpeted and not carpeted is likewise a consideration that I would have to evaluate in person vs taking the "safe route". The 2.7 auto vs 2.3 manual is likewise something that I would want to evaluate in person, but the 2.7 Auto was the "safe choice" for me.

The big differences between the non-SAS OBX and non-SAS BL builds are the sway bar disconnect, gear ratios, and front locker. The other items that had both pros and cons were the modular bumper vs fog lights, the weight of the bash plates vs no bash plates, rock rails vs side steps. These considerations were competing with my desire to keep the power to weight ratio and overall value per dollar spent as favorable as possible.

One obvious mistake I made was not opting for the upfitter switches. That goes in the regret not ordering column.

 

[johndeerefarmer]

Parts are Parts, parts are not integration...

(and please don't be like the lazy car salesmen that did not know it was called a Stabilizer Bar Disconnect and call it a stabar, it is not to late to change the title of this thread, please.)

Bronco Stabilizer Bar Disconnect Operational & Service Information

BWI Bronco Stabilizer Bar Disconnect Technical Information

Bingo, with a caveat, some have pointed out they may try it and just use a manual switch to trigger power to the unit, however......... if it is a PCM, Can bus, or the like, that will not work, but I look forward to someone digging in to see what is possible.

How about stabar disco. LOL
Nowhere did I say I thought you could just throw one in there, but I have a better chance than most. Between 20 years in the electronics field and being a farmer I can fix and fab nearly anything.. My Deere's have canbus and isobus and I am familiar with them.
You might also be able to add it via FORSCAN

The point of the post was to see what the stabar costs and to see if the BL's premium over the BD was worth it. If the cost is anywhere near the MOPAR then the BL's premium is worth it.

 

[B-Rad]

For whatever it’s worth I disconnected the drivers side sway bar link on my 2021 ranger (same front suspension as the bronco) and have driven it all over the country 22,000 miles on and off road it has a 3” lift and 33’s there is a little bit more body roll but still drives fine in my opinion

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