In your mind, Bronco compares to what?

[timhood]

Unless your kids are infants or toddlers, a 2-door is plenty truck. I’m married with two kids. Not sure how a less-expensive vehicle is “luxury money” over the higher-priced 4-door, but I suck at math.

I grew up hunting and and daily driving/riding 2-door SUVs until 4-doors became the norm in the mid-90s. I later had a 2-door Wrangler I got rid of when I had babies, but not because of inconvenience, but rather safety in a possible crash. All our cars were two-door until I was 12 (1984) and my mom got a full-size Ford van. My dad still drove 2-door vehicles until the late 90s.

This. The two-door has back seats. So, unless people have 3 kids, what's the issue? Three kids is the only scenario where a four-door works when a two-door doesn't. And if you have 4+ kids, you're in two vehicles (or not the Bronco). I feel like the four-door people somehow think there's more legroom in the back of it compared to the two-door (there's not). The extra four-door space is the cargo area.

Four-door people looking to distract from why they don't want to slide a seat forward can say what they want. A four-door Bronco isn't the practical choice for your family. A minivan is.

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[85_Ranger4x4]

This. The two-door has back seats. So, unless people have 3 kids, what's the issue? Three kids is the only scenario where a four-door works when a two-door doesn't. And if you have 4+ kids, you're in two vehicles (or not the Bronco). I feel like the four-door people somehow think there's more legroom in the back of it compared to the two-door (there's not). The extra four-door space is the cargo area.

Four-door people looking to distract from why they don't want to slide a seat forward can say what they want. A four-door Bronco isn't the practical choice for your family. A minivan is.

If you are kids are out of car seats...

The rear seat of a 2dr is narrower so you will be limited to one car seat in the back seat. Also a major PITA to either reach across a vehicle to put kid in a car seat or to lift them over the front of a rear facing car seat to put them in it.

4dr should easily fit two car seats with much easier side access.

I don't think a 4dr will comfortably seat three of anything comfortably in the back seat.

We have a 17mo and hopefully at least one more on the way at some point so yeah, rear seat access is a big deal. I get by with a supercab F-150 and that is enough of a PITA.

 

[Essmith94]

Except this mythical unicorn has green in its paint scheme

 

[Roger123]

The Ford Bronco II had more than five times more rollover fatalities in 1987 than the Suzuki Samurai. "There were 43 Bronco II rollover fatalities in 1987, compared with eight for the Samurai..."

Sami wouldn’t go fast enough to roll over, LOL

 

[Offroadrob]

When I think of the new Bronco I'm mentally comparing it to my previous EB's; 2 door, agile, utility, rugged, go anywhere etc. That's what I see when I look at a Gen 6 and it ticks all the boxes.

no lie

The 2D definitely is stronger invoking the old school vibe, if it was only about wheeling and looks I’d be 2drbasesquatch, but this will also serve as my DD six months a year. So 4dr with bells and whistles for me

To the original question - I’m comparing the Bronco to a fifth gen 4Runner, cause that’s what it’ll replace. So it’s a compromise vehicle, I need it to be composed and comfortable on the highway, I want it to be fun and capable Offroad. After Moab I have no doubts, it’s going to be a step up in almost every way.*

*cargo space and the swing gate being the only two negatives

 

[AcesandEights]

Any Idea of the sales figures for these vehicles? I'd look it up, but not my post... Critical thinking is your friend up in here....

Ford tested (stability/rollover) three (competitive) vehicles prior to Explorer production. Chevy S10 passed 100%, Bronco II 100%, Explorer failed 40%. Not that different than real-world death rates.

 

[Hoofnmouth]

 

[5280Bronco]

Not gonna lie, i like the look.

 

[timhood]

If you are kids are out of car seats...

The rear seat of a 2dr is narrower so you will be limited to one car seat in the back seat.

The two-door is wide enough for two car seats. Sure, there won't be any significant extra space, but if you're putting two car seats in back, they're probably not being taken in and out

Also a major PITA to either reach across a vehicle to put kid in a car seat or to lift them over the front of a rear facing car seat to put them in it.

I'll give you that. But we are talking about a pretty limited use case here. Kids that are small enough that they can't get into a car seat on their own. Are these kids that people are going to be taking off-roading? I would bet that most families in this position already have another vehicle suited for this or they've already been dealing with it. My point being not every vehicle can solve every problem, nor should it be expected to.

4dr should easily fit two car seats with much easier side access.

I don't think a 4dr will comfortably seat three of anything comfortably in the back seat.

The four-door back seat is wider than the Escape's. We've had three people--teens, adults, kids--in back. Two adults/teens plus one kid works fine. Maybe not ideal for longer trips. The two-door is definitely a four-passenger vehicle. The four-door is probably a 4+1. But that just underscores my point that the four-door isn't the automatic answer just because someone has kids.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out that people may be in for unreasonable expectations about the four-door. Back doors provide easier access, but it's not going to change how many people are riding in back in most cases.

People with two kids who can get in the back on their own will do just as well with the two-door. People with kids in car seats have a temporary condition to deal with. People with three kids aren't solving their problems with a four-door unless those kids are all small enough.

 

[Paul Gagnon]

Just hopefully less flippy and murdery

That's an urban legend. The flippy killy thing is because people don't know how to drive.

 

[timhood]

...this will also serve as my DD six months a year. So 4dr with bells and whistles for me

I'm curious why you think the two-door won't be a perfectly fine daily driver. You think Ford created one model that drive nicely and the other one doesn't? The suspension is by far the most significant factor in drivability, and both models share the same suspension and tires. The two-door has a wheelbase and width similar to the Escape, which rides perfectly fine. The Bronco's more compliant suspension and tires and extra weight means it probably will probably ride better.

Unless you are bringing along more than one passenger during your daily driving, I'd recommend not driving a two-door after you buy your four-door, lest you be disappointed that you can't tell a difference in ride quality. Hopefully you have other reasons why you've justified the need for the four-door.

 

[Offroadrob]

I'm curious why you think the two-door won't be a perfectly fine daily driver. You think Ford created one model that drive nicely and the other one doesn't?

Its not suitable as a daily for me cause I need more space

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The two-door is wide enough for two car seats. Sure, there won't be any significant extra space, but if you're putting two car seats in back, they're probably not being taken in and out


I'll give you that. But we are talking about a pretty limited use case here. Kids that are small enough that they can't get into a car seat on their own. Are these kids that people are going to be taking off-roading? I would bet that most families in this position already have another vehicle suited for this or they've already been dealing with it. My point being not every vehicle can solve every problem, nor should it be expected to.



The four-door back seat is wider than the Escape's. We've had three people--teens, adults, kids--in back. Two adults/teens plus one kid works fine. Maybe not ideal for longer trips. The two-door is definitely a four-passenger vehicle. The four-door is probably a 4+1. But that just underscores my point that the four-door isn't the automatic answer just because someone has kids.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, just pointing out that people may be in for unreasonable expectations about the four-door. Back doors provide easier access, but it's not going to change how many people are riding in back in most cases.

People with two kids who can get in the back on their own will do just as well with the two-door. People with kids in car seats have a temporary condition to deal with. People with three kids aren't solving their problems with a four-door unless those kids are all small enough.

Yeah, booster seats and older would be fine in a 2dr if cargo capacity is a non issue.

When kids have to rear facing until around 100lbs (IIRC, we are not close yet) a young family starting out can easily get two in rear facing at the same time. Buying one now we would probably be in something else by the time the kid(s) could get in on their own so sucking it up waiting for that point is kinda fruitless.

Three across is kind of gimmicky in a fullsize truck, I don't see a Bronco being better than than my '150.

We got ours so my wife and son can off-road with me in my truck (which is a two seater). Also for a rural dd as her Edge has struggled for years with mud and snow just getting to work and back home. I have only had to pull her out once this year so far...

People rag on the 4dr like it is a school bus off-road, the wheelbase is only 2" longer than my Ranger which I find rather nimble...

Car seats take up a lot of room and of course they vary. The one in my F-150 pretty much fills the front passenger seat.

And a guy about needs a cube van for all the other hardware that goes with a little kid that a guy doesn't get a say in packing...

Not every vehicle can solve every problem but for us the 4dr solves more for us than the 2dr could hope to. Given their popularity we must not be alone...

 

[BuzzyBud]

I once owned a Ford Explorer Sport. The Bronco 2-door reminds me of that vehicle.

 

[timhood]

When kids have to rear facing until around 100lbs (IIRC, we are not close yet)...

May wanna check that stat to save yourself years of grief. Most states, kids can be done with booster seats at 8 years or 80 pounds. Rear-facing infant car seats are usually 2 years/30 pounds. And something like 4 years/40 pounds to go from car seat to booster seat. That said, you may choose to be more safe with your kids, nothing wrong with that.

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