Bronco Raptor Differences vs. All Other Trims - Comprehensive List

[stampede1]

H/P per pound is nearly identical. Torque on the other hand favors the 2 door in Torque per pound by about 14%. Torque wins.

Just so we are clear, the Raptor can wallop the regular bronco-your choice, it doesn't matter which-in the medium for which it was designed which is high speed open desert Baja style running. It can do it for the same treason it can beat the Jeep 392-the suspension is the key, which in the open desert trumps torque, horsepower, number of cylinders, etc. While both the Stroppe Edition and the Raptor owe their existence to the legendary Bill Stroppe, the Raptor's lineage comes from the Big Oly, while the Stroppe Edition honors the Baja bronco, and only one of those was a hard core desert racing vehicle while the other was a fun aftermarket offroad capable vehicle. Don't get me wrong, I think Ford did a great thing by paying tribute to Bill Stroppe with the Stroppe Edition, but is primarily a cosmetic edition.

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[swamp2]

If its a comprehensive list....

Slower than a 2.7L two door. Proven that many times myself. The numbers prove it, do the math

Relevance ?

Given that those two variants have an almost identical power to weight ratio it will be a drivers skill and traction contest not a vehicle contest off the line. Once they get going it's a battle of drag vs. hp (not power to weight) and the Raptor will prevail. That IS "the math" .

However, more importantly, how important is drag racing for a Bronco .

 

[swamp2]

H/P per pound is nearly identical. Torque on the other hand favors the 2 door in Torque per pound by about 14%. Torque wins.

Let's not digress into a torque vs power argument, that said torque is largely irrelevant as it is inextricably linked to gearing (and the gearing effect of tire size). The ability to produce torque over time and at high rpm is power and vehicle acceleration is determined only by such.

 

[SierraBronco]

Wow! I shouldn’t be surprised, but there sure is a lot of serious Jealousy out there against the Bronco Raptor……. I perfectly understand it though, but it’s still sad. I have had a currently have quite a few Jeep Rubicon’s. And on all the Jeep sites “”some”” of the sport Jeep owners have every excuse to show their jealousy against the Rubicon owners. I’ve had quite a few Ford super duties and on the Ford super duty websites the people with the XLT’s dislike the lariat owners, and there are quite a few people that despise the king ranch and platinum owners……… same thing on the Toyota website…. The regular Toyota owners have a jealousy for all the guys who own a TRD truck. pretty sure the jealousy will never end no matter what vehicle it is unless you have the same one as the complainer has.

Is that you savsquatch?

You’re confusing jealousy with those simply stating reality. Similar to those in bronco groups that start using the word “hater” when someone is realistic on the drawbacks to bronco ownership. I’ve three 6G broncos. I’m not a hater, but I am honest on providing realistic expectations for potential owners new to a removable top or “modular” platform.

I don’t hate the Braptor, it just doesn’t appeal to me.

 

[mdainsd]

Just so we are clear, the Raptor can wallop the regular bronco-your choice, it doesn't matter which-in the medium for which it was designed which is high speed open desert Baja style running. It can do it for the same treason it can beat the Jeep 392-the suspension is the key, which in the open desert trumps torque, horsepower, number of cylinders, etc. While both the Stroppe Edition and the Raptor owe their existence to the legendary Bill Stroppe, the Raptor's lineage comes from the Big Oly, while the Stroppe Edition honors the Baja bronco, and only one of those was a hard core desert racing vehicle while the other was a fun aftermarket offroad capable vehicle. Don't get me wrong, I think Ford did a great thing by paying tribute to Bill Stroppe with the Stroppe Edition, but is primarily a cosmetic edition.

Linage fromBig Oly? Do tell. Big Oly was a two wheel drive vehicle utilizing modified twin I-beam, TRAILING LINK suspension up front.

 

[stampede1]

Linage fromBig Oly? Do tell. Big Oly was a two wheel drive vehicle utilizing modified twin I-beam, TRAILING LINK suspension up front.

The Big Oly and the Raptor both exist for one reason and one reason only-to conquer the open desert at high velocity. They share the distinction of both being heavily modified Broncos, each in their own right with their own era-specific equipment, but for the same overall goal. One race bred and one mass produced but sharing the same heritage.

 

[Mirage]

Wow! I shouldn’t be surprised, but there sure is a lot of serious Jealousy out there against the Bronco Raptor……. I perfectly understand it though, but it’s still sad. I have had a currently have quite a few Jeep Rubicon’s. And on all the Jeep sites “”some”” of the sport Jeep owners have every excuse to show their jealousy against the Rubicon owners. I’ve had quite a few Ford super duties and on the Ford super duty websites the people with the XLT’s dislike the lariat owners, and there are quite a few people that despise the king ranch and platinum owners……… same thing on the Toyota website…. The regular Toyota owners have a jealousy for all the guys who own a TRD truck. pretty sure the jealousy will never end no matter what vehicle it is unless you have the same one as the complainer has.

No jealousy here, I just don't care for them, either the Bronco or the F150, just not my thing. My wife and I just like 2 door better. She thought about a 4 door, but decided on her HEL 2dr. We've had 2 Rubicons, a rare TJ and the abundant JK and now there are just Rubicon JLU's everywhere... I see what you mean though, no point in being jealous over a trim package. I don't care about trim levels. I have a 95 F-150 XLT 4x4, that was probably a fortune brand new, because most people around here didn't want to pay for a loaded XLT back then. I would've bought a new XL 5.0, if I hadn't bought the Bronco

 

[Mirage]

The Big Oly and the Raptor both exist for one reason and one reason only-to conquer the open desert at high velocity. They share the distinction of both being heavily modified Broncos, each in their own right with their own era-specific equipment, but for the same overall goal. One race bred and one mass produced but sharing the same heritage.

Yes, I do agree that the Bronco Raptor most likely excels in the desert, but no deserts around here, LOL! I just cannot justify spending $100+K on one and just driving it back and forth to work and never offroad.... There's a lot sweeter vehicles out there for that kind of money that I would enjoy more Just my $.02

 

[swamp2]

The Big Oly and the Raptor both exist for one reason and one reason only-to conquer the open desert at high velocity.

Patently false.

The Raptor enjoys huge capability at high speed and at low speed crawling. It does so primarily due to its 37s, F&R lockers, and great approach, break over and departure angles.

Have you driven one?

Name a stock vehicle that can out crawl the Raptor.

Loosely related it also excels on the pavement due to its active and independent (front) suspension.

Thus with all of these capabilities it's kind of a unicorn rig.

 

[stampede1]

As a matter of act I own one. And I agree with you and desert Chief about the amazing versatility of the Raptor and actually how competitive it is in technical rock crawling compared to jeeps. But Ford makes no bones in its advertising about what this particular Bronco was primarily built for. There is a reason that the hood cowl commemorates the wins by Big Oly in the Baja 1000. So to me it is patently true-IMHO.

 

[RK Racing]

Patently false.

The Raptor enjoys huge capability at high speed and at low speed crawling. It does so primarily due to its 37s, F&R lockers, and great approach, break over and departure angles.

Have you driven one?

Name a stock vehicle that can out crawl the Raptor.

Loosely related it also excels on the pavement due to its active and independent (front) suspension.

Thus with all of these capabilities it's kind of a unicorn rig.

Still a newbe here…… I was under the uncertain impression that the Jeep Rubicon has the ultra low geared transfer case for rock crawling….. and Mojave Jeep was set up for high speed desert suspension stuff…. Please bring me up to speed how the Raptor Bronco compares to the Rubicon in rock crawling.

 

[SierraBronco]

Patently false.

The Raptor enjoys huge capability at high speed and at low speed crawling. It does so primarily due to its 37s, F&R lockers, and great approach, break over and departure angles.

Have you driven one?

Name a stock vehicle that can out crawl the Raptor.

Loosely related it also excels on the pavement due to its active and independent (front) suspension.

Thus with all of these capabilities it's kind of a unicorn rig.

Can confirm-the braptor does a great job on the rocks for a stock rig. I would pit it against the Delivery Truck AMG 4x4^2 on factory portals and feel comfortable betting on the Braptor for every offroad situation besides a level rock garden or deep snow. Back to the rocks - Rubicon eeks it out in articulation but that isn’t an issue if you don’t mind three-wheeling.

 

[swamp2]

So to me it is patently true-IMHO.

So if a marketing team focuses on "it excels at A" but in reality it excels at A, B and C, then it only excels at A?

Yeaaaaah... Got it.

 

[swamp2]

Still a newbe here…… I was under the uncertain impression that the Jeep Rubicon has the ultra low geared transfer case for rock crawling….. and Mojave Jeep was set up for high speed desert suspension stuff…. Please bring me up to speed how the Raptor Bronco compares to the Rubicon in rock crawling.

The Rubi has about a 7% lower total 4L ratio (numerically larger). Theoretically this is "better".

However, the amount of total gear reduction, as long as one has reasonably numerically high ratio in 4L, isn't a determining/limiting factor in crawling ability. All of these rigs will run out of grip far before stalling from not a low enough gear.

Far more important for crawling are suspension articulation, travel, tire size and clearance angles (approach, break over and departure). A low CG is also very helpful. Those are not provided in order of importance.

The Bronco Raptor exceeds the Rubicon in all of these metrics except articulation and CG, primarily front articulation due to its solid front axle.

If you want to count the ultra rare, not really production Jeep, the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JL370 with AEV Level II 37” Kit, then the Raptor is a better crawler than all production Jeeps. I think with both the 37s and solid front axle, this Jeep would out crawl a stock Braptor.

 

[RK Racing]

The Rubi has about a 7% lower total 4L ratio (numerically larger). Theoretically this is "better".

However, the amount of total gear reduction, as long as one has reasonably numerically high ratio in 4L, isn't a determining/limiting factor in crawling ability. All of these rigs will run out of grip far before stalling from not a low enough gear.

Far more important for crawling are suspension articulation, travel, tire size and clearance angles (approach, break over and departure). A low CG is also very helpful. Those are not provided in order of importance.

The Bronco Raptor exceeds the Rubicon in all of these metrics except articulation and CG, primarily front articulation due to its solid front axle.

If you want to count the ultra rare, not really production Jeep, the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon JL370 with AEV Level II 37” Kit, then the Raptor is a better crawler than all production Jeeps. I think with both the 37s and solid front axle, this Jeep would out crawl a stock Braptor.

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