Advice Needed on Bronco Trade In

[BroncoDymond88]

There are three Bilstein shocks you can get for your Bronco: 5112's, 6112's and 8112's. The 5112's are cheapest but don't outcompete the HOSS 3.0 Foxes. The 6112's are about $2k + install, again not better than the Foxes. And the 8112's retail for $7700 (but sell for around $5700) + install. The latter outperform everything but maybe CDEV. (Note I omitted the BL's ESC-V's.)

I kinda wonder if the drop-in ones you've heard about are the 8112's.

Yup, this is the thread https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/bilstein-8112-dsa-better-than-hoss-3-0.110529/

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[BroncoDymond88]

Hmm this is an interesting proposal. You want an AMB colour, and Badlands is a good RIG to build off of. The issue here is what is the details of the BL. You cannot find that out until you see it for yourself. Getting some money back out of the deal also sweetens the pot.

Some cons are going down two years. I have a 21 BL lux package that I have built into an extremely capable RIG that I would be very hard-pressed to trade in on a 25. That includes a BRaptore. The aftermarket now has caught up to and even surpassed the genre, so anything you want to gain can be bought. The difference between a 21 and 23 is minuscule. Yes the Wildtrack has better suspension and rack. That can be purchased. Beyond that, nothing. To note, the Wildtrack is now a model some may be interested in because it is no longer available. So who knows? It may turn into a collector's item.

Another way to go about this is to change the colour of your Wildtrack, upgrade to what you want on the Wildtrack, (disco) and enjoy. Though you may save some money by lowering your payments, this still comes down to what type of loan you have and what the principle is. But this would turn into another thread altogether.

To end, I would say go take a good look at the 21 BL. If it is what you want, go through it with a fine-tooth comb. Then make sure the finance is correct, and then make a decision.

Good luck.

Thank you, this is mostly what I was thinking. It's largely the exact same truck without the new suspension and some different interior colors that I don't mind. I think it'd be easier/cheaper to upgrade the suspension on the BL than to change the color on the Wildtrak.

 

[userdude]

Yup, this is the thread https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/bilstein-8112-dsa-better-than-hoss-3-0.110529/

Those are top of their class shocks, but come at a price. You would get those for going very fast in desert situations (as @popo_patty et al did). I know the 21/22's had a problem with a weak mount that was breaking (I think it was a rear link mount?), that Ford fixed midyear 2022 IIRC. You would probably want to reinforce that if you're wanting to do that sort of thing with a Bronco of that vintage.

 

[Jazer]

Two things come to mind... One it's out of the bumper to bumper warranty so be cautious, and two, check it's recalls. If it is a 2.7 it could be in the sus timeline. While the affected vehicles are generally low overall, it might be a total nightmare to deal with for those it does affect. If it is not affected and you don't mind the other trade-offs, given your circumstance it may be worth it. Personally, I wouldn't be able to swap out my known Bronco for an "unknown" one just for a different color, but It is a big part of what you see so I understand the desire.

 

[BroncoDymond88]

Two things come to mind... One it's out of the bumper to bumper warranty so be cautious, and two, check it's recalls. If it is a 2.7 it could be in the sus timeline. While the affected vehicles are generally low overall, it might be a total nightmare to deal with for those it does affect. If it is not affected and you don't mind the other trade-offs, given your circumstance it may be worth it. Personally, I wouldn't be able to swap out my known Bronco for an "unknown" one just for a different color, but It is a big part of what you see so I understand the desire.

Thanks, my other issue is, I was thinking if they release a new model year with that color int he coming years I'll just trade up. But with all the price increases and tariffs and stuff I'm not going to be able to buy a 90k Bronco in 2 years.

 

[NC_Pinz]

The only item I'd add is that because you are remote to the AM Bronco, you could see if a forum member is in the area that was willing to take a look at it for you. For classic vehicles, that kind of help is not uncommon. Just a thought to give you a better feel of the Bronco's condition.

 

[BroncoDymond88]

The only item I'd add is that because you are remote to the AM Bronco, you could see if a forum member is in the area that was willing to take a look at it for you. For classic vehicles, that kind of help is not uncommon. Just a thought to give you a better feel of the Bronco's condition.

Thank you, I am having a pro service go out and give me a full report on findings.

 

[MayhemMike]

Just find a black WT locally and tell everyone it is AMB. No one will no the difference. No way I would let an exterior color, that I had once approved be the mechanism that drives a transaction.

 

[MNBigfoot]

Just find a black WT locally and tell everyone it is AMB. No one will no the difference. No way I would let an exterior color, that I had once approved be the mechanism that drives a transaction.

x2 on both accounts. Keep in mind that the OP a few months ago, was asking about taking a $34K hit (Bronco had $77k into it, being offered $43 on trade), on a Bronco with 10K to get a white hard top. In mid Dec the OP's bronco only had 10K miles on it, so it's not like he's getting a bronco with 20-30k less mileage. Can't imagine throwing $30k on a hardtop or $20k for a paint color.

 

[BroncoDymond88]

x2 on both accounts. Keep in mind that the OP a few months ago, was asking about taking a $34K hit (Bronco had $77k into it, being offered $43 on trade), on a Bronco with 10K to get a white hard top. In mid Dec the OP's bronco only had 10K miles on it, so it's not like he's getting a bronco with 20-30k less mileage. Can't imagine throwing $30k on a hardtop or $20k for a paint color.

You're right, because I've been going back and forth about this color issue for a while now. I was on the fence about buying a white one with the Gloss Black hard top (not a white hard top), again because I'm not a huge fan of the color I have. I ultimately didn't do that because you're right, it just would've been too stupid. But here I am still trying to solve this color issue. It's interesting that you're talking about me as if I'm not in the room and making more of a point about me as a person based on my previous posts, not sure the relevance.

It's not exactly throwing 20k away. Maybe I just care more about the color that was only made in very limited numbers and I think looks better than any other color they've offered on these things. The 20k in equity I'd be losing out on really doesn't matter as it's tied up in the truck. It has fewer than 10k miles, so less mileage than the newer one. There would literally be no out of pocket costs and my monthly payments will go down. If I don't consider ever selling it and pay off the loan in 2 years, I don't really miss this 20k in equity you think it's so crazy to give up.

 

[JT58Bronc]

I would also not go from a newer Bronco to an older Bronco. 21 was first model year and there are a few more possible issues, the engine recall being one of them.

 

[MNBigfoot]

You're right, because I've been going back and forth about this color issue for a while now. I was on the fence about buying a white one with the Gloss Black hard top (not a white hard top), again because I'm not a huge fan of the color I have. I ultimately didn't do that because you're right, it just would've been too stupid. But here I am still trying to solve this color issue. It's interesting that you're talking about me as if I'm not in the room and making more of a point about me as a person based on my previous posts, not sure the relevance.

It's not exactly throwing 20k away. Maybe I just care more about the color that was only made in very limited numbers and I think looks better than any other color they've offered on these things. The 20k in equity I'd be losing out on really doesn't matter as it's tied up in the truck. It has fewer than 10k miles, so less mileage than the newer one. There would literally be no out of pocket costs and my monthly payments will go down. If I don't consider ever selling it and pay off the loan in 2 years, I don't really miss this 20k in equity you think it's so crazy to give up.

It goes beyond just an obsession isn't simple about the discontinued color, because you seem to feel the same way about the white top that can be had today. Will your bank even allow you to trade your $73K Bronco for a $35K Bronco? And once you get the right color Bronco, won't you need the white top (you already mentioned it)? Won't you need your 1 inch lift that you had to have on the last one (mentioned in the op)? Does it have full PPF that you need?

I look at it this way, you've got $77K into a 23 with just over 10K on it, you'll have $10K(?) into a new top, then $15k on accessories like this one needed, and you have a $103,000 into a 21 Bronco worth $40k with a loan on it, at todays interest rate.

 

[BroncoDymond88]

It goes beyond just an obsession isn't simple about the discontinued color, because you seem to feel the same way about the white top that can be had today. Will your bank even allow you to trade your $73K Bronco for a $35K Bronco? I once you get the right color Bronco, won't you need the white top (you already mentioned it)? Won't you need your 1 inch lift that you had to have on the last one (mentioned in the op)? Does it have full PPF that you need?

I look at it this way, you've got $77K into a 23 with just over 10K on it, you'll have $10K(?) into a new top, then $15k on accessories like this one needed, and you have a $103,000 into a 21 Bronco worth $40k with a loan on it, at todays interest rate.

It';s hard to take you seriously because you keep misstating things. I wanted the BLACK painted hard top because that's what was originally supposed to be included in my original '21 Wildtrak order. The bank doesn't give a shit what you do as long as you pay off the loan you have with them, so yes, they will let me trade the vehicle and pay off the remaining balance on the loan. I will not need a white top because I never wanted a white top. Maybe someday I'd be able to source a gloss black hard top and then I'll buy it if I am in a position to. You studied my post history but not well, I only needed the lift on the '23 because it was lower than the '21 was, so no, I wont need the lift on the '21. It does not have full ppf and again, if I want that i an always add later.

I didn't buy any top for the '23, and literally all of the accessories except the ppf are transferrable and will be transferred. The rest of your comment about the $103,000 in the '21 Bronco I don't understand at all so I can't respond.

 

[MNBigfoot]

It';s hard to take you seriously because you keep misstating things. I wanted the BLACK painted hard top because that's what was originally supposed to be included in my original '21 Wildtrak order. The bank doesn't give a shit what you do as long as you pay off the loan you have with them, so yes, they will let me trade the vehicle and pay off the remaining balance on the loan. I will not need a white top because I never wanted a white top. Maybe someday I'd be able to source a gloss black hard top and then I'll buy it if I am in a position to. You studied my post history but not well, I only needed the lift on the '23 because it was lower than the '21 was, so no, I wont need the lift on the '21. It does not have full ppf and again, if I want that i an always add later.

I didn't buy any top for the '23, and literally all of the accessories except the ppf are transferrable and will be transferred. The rest of your comment about the $103,000 in the '21 Bronco I don't understand at all so I can't respond.

Apologies for mistaking your desire for a black painted top for a white top, although I don't think that mistake made a lick of difference to the discussion.

 

[Area51BS]

I personally would not buy a Bronco without going over every inch. Poorly done mods and other DIY damage. Same for any car really. And I wouldn’t trust any dealer you have not dealt with before. You need someone to inspect it as you stated. That’s the hard part.

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