No more 2023MY scheduling for hardtops, Sasquatch and LUX (reported by dealership)

[Alex Sector]

my dealer said Ford is doing this to try to get all remaining orders scheduled by April so they can open up order banks.

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[Karl_in_Chicago]

If this is true, it’s the most catastrophic supply chain and production meltdown in the history of new vehicle rollouts. How could any company have multiple vendor failures, simultaneously, while other companies (Tesla) are cutting production to keep demand high?

How could any company have multiple vendor failures, simultaneously, while other companies (Tesla) are cutting production prices to keep demand high?

There, fixed it for you!

 

[Leadville]

my dealer said Ford is doing this to try to get all remaining orders scheduled by April so they can open up order banks

' order banks ' for what ?

squishy tops on steelies ?

 

[swooshdave]

How could any company have multiple vendor failures, simultaneously, while other companies (Tesla) are cutting production prices to keep demand high?

There, fixed it for you!

Maybe the wacky space African is smarter that the crusty old farts at Ford?

 

[Suke996]

Remember, @Ford Motor Company set unrealistic goals and over promised while under achieving.

The consumer followed the time line and got our orders in, yet got screwed with a price increase.

 

[dgorsett]

It makes sense that they won’t build anything with the Sasquatch package so they could use all of those bits for the Wildtrak, Heritage and Everglades. The most expensive and most limited models.

I always thought it was strange that Ford would allow a $37K Bronco to have all the performance bits of an $80K Bronco. This is a way to limit performance to the high dollar models without actually saying so. Maybe when commodities are totally unrestricted they'd open it up again, then again they could keep it restricted after everyone forgets about it.

 

[MNBigfoot]

I always thought it was strange that Ford would allow a $37K Bronco to have all the performance bits of an $80K Bronco. This is a way to limit performance to the high dollar models without actually saying so. Maybe when commodities are totally unrestricted they'd open it up again, then again they could keep it restricted after everyone forgets about it.

If the "Heritage Edition" includes the BB based one, that's actually a budget Bronco, pricing out lower than a like equipped BB.

 

[vicorjh]

 

[MikeOBronco]

Don't forget the big change for MY 23..."the new-for-2023 7 speaker system with rear subwoofer." They ran out of those before the end of December and put in a mandatory delete! That was a huge red flag! It showed that Ford management could not deliver on features that were offered to us.

 

[22OBX]

That’s not how percentages work. If those percentages are correct it means that Ford doesn’t have capacity to build 47% of two door orders.

Explain again then. Because this is what I understood from the post earlier.

This is what was explained to me


What matters is not the percentage but the percentage compared to the order mix. So if an item is 4% constrained, but only 2% of the order mix… the It is effectively not constrained at all… there is enough for everyone who ordered one.

The hard top is an 85% order mix. So if the constraint is 68%, then a lot of hard top
orders are getting ignored (17% of the order mix). The soft top has a 15% order mix and a 38% constraint. Which means there is enough soft tops for everyone who orders them even though it is “more” of a constraint.

So if two door is 17% constrained and 28% mix, using what I was told above 9% would be ignored?

 

[swooshdave]

Evidently an excepted order by FORD from Jan 2021 doesn't mean getting an order either.

Correct. Just like my MY21 and MY22 orders. They mean absolutely nothing at this point.

 

[Nobroncoyet]

Looking under 65. Need something a little bigger than a taco since my daughter has a rear facing car seat. I had the new frontier and it was pretty cramped. Wish I could afford a trx hahha

Getting a 23 TRX with Granger. 77.5k out the door. If you can squeeze 10k more I'd definitely recommend Granger. Please skip chapman
Granger is easiest transaction ever done and I got cars from koons, Granger, chapman, Mark of Louisiana and Dan Cummins. Granger has a good deal now but if you want absolutely cheapest get base. You'll miss on 360 cameras but you are getting 6.2 hellcat supercharged 110k guys get

https://www.ram-trx.com/threads/11-...ant-no-deposit-required-granger-motors.13813/

 

[dfresh73]

I feel for everyone still waiting. I finally brought mine home this morning after a 908 day wait from my reservation date. Feels weird that I won’t be checking emails and the tracker/back door link multiple times per day anymore.

 

[RichWpg]

I managed to snag my loaded 2D from a dealer lot a few months ago, but still have my 12 month old order pending (3 for 3: sas, lux + hard top). I'm temped to keep my order at this point for the sheer entertainment of hearing all the excuses from my dealer, and maybe it will take so long, that by the time I get the car the 7th gen will be out.

I think the only thing that maybe ends this clown show is when Jeep releases the 5th gen Wrangler which will naturally peel off a ton of orders due to the (likely) updated infotainment, better quality interior (sorry Ford, but my '21/JL Wrangler interior is higher quality), next gen drive aids, PHEV/EV options and whatever else they think of (onboard air compressor anyone?).

I'm honestly surprised they aren't expediting it to close the tech gap between the Bronco and Wrangler (driver aids and infotainment are a joke in the 4th gen/JL).

There's nothing like the threat of losing your market share to spark creativity in corporations.

 

[350vudu]

My take on all this is that whether you agree or not, Chapman has interpreted Ford‘s presentation to mean that Ford will prioritize and build orders that don’t specify SAS, Lux, and hard tops and most orders that have them will be pushed further out and, very likely, not be built in ‘23. Based on Ashlie’s other response, they are standing by that interpretation. Because order holders at Chapman are likely cost conscious, losing price protection is a concern so their advice is to drop those constraints within the next week or, if you choose to stay the course, roll the dice and put your money on Ford and Ford‘s supply chain to come through for you. Best of luck to you.

Apparently Ford is also considering options for 2 door tops, but like this thread has proven, it’s best to wait until official word from Ford next week before assuming anything.

From what Rangarkon and others have posted about price protection in other threads it seems that a private offer from Ford may reduce the possibility for dealer hijinx? If true, and Ford‘s offer is a fair one, it may be worth it to me to get off the merry go round and take what I can get. Of course, everyone has to do what’s best for their situation. Peace be with you.

If customers are going to make those sacrifices then they might as well cancel their order and buy from dealers lots now. There are low specs like those for very little if any ADM at all they can purchase now and not wait.

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