Wildtrak vs Badsquatch on road

[Silver-Bolt]

My Badsquatch 2.7 is plenty zippy...

Here is my advice:

If zippy is what you're looking for buy a Mustang.

If you want the best offroad option, buy the Badsquatch (baseplate, disconnect, ect...).

If you're looking for a pavement princess (an offroad vehicle that isn't gonna get wheeled) the Wildtrak is the best option.

Really it's hard to compare apples to apples in a test drive unless the options are are there to compare. Sasquatch Broncos really are a different beast so the WT vs non-SAS BL really isn't a fair comparison.

How is a Wildtrak a pavement princess?

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[Jdyount]

How is a Wildtrak a pavement princess?

I see you have a Raptor, I would extend my assertion to 98% of Raptors being pavement princesses...

 

[Silver-Bolt]

I see you have a Raptor, I would extend my assertion to 98% of Raptors being pavement princesses...
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That assumption applies to every off-road capable vehicle made. My Raptor is about 75/25 on road to off road. The Bronco when it arrives will be about the same.

 

[Jdyount]

How is a Wildtrak a pavement princess?

The Wildtrak, not coming with bash plates or steel bumpers standard or a disconnect at all, is not an model most people looking to offroad will buy.

Most people who buy a Bronco or a Jeep or a Raptor or a Corvette or a Mustang GT500 or a,... do so because it's cool, NOT for function. A very high percentage of Sasquatch Broncos will NEVER be in a situation where lockers are required, even if they are taken offroad, just like most Corvettes and GT500s will NEVER see a track.

I personally would never buy a specialized vehicle and not use it as intended recreationally (as well as daily driving). I have a $63,000 Bronco that I take to the offroad park. I would LOVE to have a GT500 and I would absolutely take it to track days.

Do I think it's a silly to have a Bronco and never offroad it, sure, but that's my hang-up, do what makes you happy and forget what I think.........

 

[Panzer948]

First edition has all this stuff too, anyone know how they drive?

No need to worry about all of this.... I have a Badlands Squatched and used Forescan to give it Wildtrack's "Sport Mode" and now my heavy Badlands feels very very Zippy! Sport mode will definitely give you that feeling and I use it all of the time. . There are a ton of threads on Forescan in the other sections.

 

[Silver-Bolt]

The Wildtrak, not coming with bash plates or steel bumpers standard or a disconnect at all, is not an model most people looking to offroad will buy.

Most people who buy a Bronco or a Jeep or a Raptor or a Corvette or a Mustang GT500 or a,... do so because it's cool, NOT for function. A very high percentage of Sasquatch Broncos will NEVER be in a situation where lockers are required, even if they are taken offroad, just like most Corvettes and GT500s will NEVER see a track.

I personally would never buy a specialized vehicle and not use it as intended recreationally (as well as daily driving). I have a $63,000 Bronco that I take to the offroad park. I would LOVE to have a GT500 and I would absolutely take it to track days.

Do I think it's a silly to have a Bronco and never offroad it, sure, but that's my hang-up, do what makes you happy and forget what I think.........

I don't disagree. I chose the Wildtrak over the BL for two primary reasons. #1 Sport mode (which has now been unlocked with Forscan). #2 I did not like the hydraulic swaybar disconnect. I see that as a potential probmatic system. I don't mind manually disconnecting the swaybar. Bumpers and skids I will do aftermarket. I do not like the factory offerings.

 

[FellowM3]

its most likely the gearing for the larger tires feels quick at low rpms

 

[Gourik31]

My Badsquatch 2.7 is plenty zippy...

Here is my advice:

If zippy is what you're looking for buy a Mustang.

If you want the best offroad option, buy the Badsquatch (baseplate, disconnect, ect...).

If you're looking for a pavement princess (an offroad vehicle that isn't gonna get wheeled) the Wildtrak is the best option.

Who would have thought a tough name like wildtrack and one of the top trims will be called "a princess" . LMAO

 

[SupremoSombrero]

The Wildtrak, not coming with bash plates or steel bumpers standard or a disconnect at all, is not an model most people looking to offroad will buy.

Most people who buy a Bronco or a Jeep or a Raptor or a Corvette or a Mustang GT500 or a,... do so because it's cool, NOT for function. A very high percentage of Sasquatch Broncos will NEVER be in a situation where lockers are required, even if they are taken offroad, just like most Corvettes and GT500s will NEVER see a track.

I personally would never buy a specialized vehicle and not use it as intended recreationally (as well as daily driving). I have a $63,000 Bronco that I take to the offroad park. I would LOVE to have a GT500 and I would absolutely take it to track days.

Do I think it's a silly to have a Bronco and never offroad it, sure, but that's my hang-up, do what makes you happy and forget what I think.........

My GT500 is on track at least once a year, but I can agree that the majority of extreme sports cars get tracked only once if ever. Nothing wrong with it, they are still fun in the on-road wild.

 

[jamtra]

I picked the Wildtrak because i don't need sway bar disconnect. Most of my off-roading will be mud and sand dunes. It was actually cheaper to get the wildtrak with the options i wanted than the badlands.

 

[Rubisquatch]

I was originally on team BL (have owned 2 Rubicon’s and ran all trails in Co, Moab and the Rubicon trail) but choose a WT. Some may laugh but I like the leather interior and blue accents way better on WT than the all grey/black/orange on the BL. I have the full skids, rock rails and will be adding an aftermarket steel rear bumper and manual disconnects (which will be available soon, see below). I agree a button is easier but aside from a button or pulling a pin, there is no difference between a BL and a WT.

 

[Raptor911]

No way in hell the front and rear bumpers are 150 pounds each

My 2019 Raptor front bumper (steel and much wider than the Bronco mod bumper) weighed 47 pounds and the skid was 27.

Here is an estimate of apples to apples weight difference versus. The Badlands would have:
Rock rails - 75lbs
Steel front -150lbs
Steel rear - 150lbs
Full bash plates -150lbs
Sway bar disconnect hardware - 50lbs

That’s 575lbs like for like, assuming a v6 automatic Sasquatch badlands vs a Wildtrak with no options.

I am not sure where you got the curb weights from, but the Badlands might have been 2dr, 2.3l, manual, etc. the Wildtrak might also have added all of the above options, except the steel rear bump and sway bar hardware of course.

 

[ramblinwreck]

No way in hell the front and rear bumpers are 150 pounds each

My 2019 Raptor front bumper (steel and much wider than the Bronco mod bumper) weighed 47 pounds and the skid was 27.

The modular bumper might be very thin steel. I did look up the weight of OEM Jeep rubicon bumpers and they are 87lbs each, so I guess OEM steel bumpers are lighter than many aftermarket ones.

Either way you can take whatever you want off those weights, but I bet it still adds up to be a significant increase. I know from experience that driving an armored Jeep is much different then a stock one.

 

[WyoBronc]

Badlands: 4945 lbs
Wildtrak: 4935 lbs

I don’t think it’s the weight of the vehicle. So maybe badsquatch and Wildtrak drive the same on road.

From what I can tell the 4dr BL, 2.7 w/10 spd auto is actually a bit more than that at 5,117 vs the WT @ 4,935…..not sure if that includes Sas for the BL, but since the chart didn’t specify I would assume it’s w/o sas. The 4,945 number you referenced appears to be for a BL w/2.3L 7spd MT

 

[WyoBronc]

I mean it is what it is, if you buy a specialized offroad vehicle and don't intend to offroad it then it's a pavement princess... Probably 75%+ Broncos and Jeeps fall into that category.

My point is that the whole (logical) reason to buy a Wildtrak is because you don't want the extra weight of the steel bumpers, bash plates, and disconnect when you're not going to use it. Otherwise why not buy a loaded out Badlands?

A couple things…..off-road is a broad term. Raptors are made to be put in Baja mode and fly down a gavel road. Paved and gravel roads will be my primary roadways in my WT, however, if there’s a fishing hole or hunting spot I need to get to I have no qualms about putting the WT in 4L in those situations and the WT will do better w/sas with the wider footprint than the non-sas steel-ladened BL over dirt/gravel roads.
Now, If you’re talking about strictly rock crawling….then the BL is a little better option than a WT with the push button disconnect and rock crawl mode. But, they have the same engine, transmission (unless you opt for the 2.3L MT), axles, tires, fring bumper, etc. But, a WT outfitted with full factory bash plates and a modular bumper is only slightly less capable as a rock crawler. Additionally, I much prefer the appearance of the WT with the gloss black wheels, grill and emblem, and I’m not in love with the MGV seats and washout flooring (always looks dirty and unfinished) vs. the digital camo WT seats and carpeted floors paired with all weather (wash out) mats.
I also believe most people that own a BL will spend a minuscule amount of time crawling across rocks (1-3%), so their BL will most likely mirror my WT driving habits (pavement princess?) 99% of the time.
There’s lots of reasons a person chooses one trim over another….but it’s not the trim that make it a princess.
I’m not about to badmouth the BL….it is the most capable rock crawler and the most bad ass trim level of our beloved Bronco….in the right drivers hands. Im just saying the WT is at least as capable, or more so, for 99% of the vehicles driving experience, to include all off roading except rock crawling.

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