This has become boring and depressing.

[Beach_Bum]

Being in a hot, sunny place... I DO want a Cadillac soft top.

It makes more sense here to have a really good soft top to keep out the heat and the occassional monsoon storm and hold up to the UV damage and easily be ably to open or ditch the top the rest of the time.

In a perfect world my Bronco would have a heavy twill soft top in either tan or an off-white natual canvas/boat sail color.

Yes - you understand. When it comes to a soft top, the gold standard is the Twill Bestop. Vinyl is trash and doesn't hold up over time.

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[RhodeIslandRed]

Maybe no 4Runners, but I've spotted some 2022 Defenders starting to appear in dealer inventories...

so ugly. So so ugly.

I feel bad for you, OP. Go get in one at a dealer, if you can. That helped me a little. Pretty soon (and I'm talking days) lots of dealers will have them and you'll be able to test drive. That should also help. I might test drive ever couple of days until mine comes in.

There's probably a name for what you (we) are experiencing. But you (we) are passionate people. We are people that want something very specific that does not yet exist. We are people that are willing to buy a car that hasn't been made yet and there were no demo models to check out. That's not normal. We are the fringe. And as any fringe element, you are going to feel highs and lows at a greater impact than regular people.

In a couple years, Ford will be pumping out a couple hundred thousand of these per year (just like jeep does). And then they'll loose this unobtanium allure that we are all suffering from. Every Tom, Dick and Harry will be able to walk into a dealer, pick a color and a few options, and get a vehicle sourced from a network in their area. They'll get it in a few days. Is that better? Are you that kind of person? I'm guessing no.

Look man, you gotta get it together. I am giving you medium-hard virtual slap in the face. SNAP OUT OF IT! Be tough. You are gonna get a Bronco. NOBODY has one right now. You will get one of the first ones available. It's just going to be a little while longer. You can do it.

I'm driving a goddamn minivan right now while I wait.

 

[rugbysecondrow]

TL;DR — You can be informed about the reality of current challenges, optimistic about the future, and chill about the apparent contrast of those differing perspectives, all at the same time.

And parsing fact from rumor on this forum is a messy task, regardless of what random internet experts say about supply chain and vendor delays.

8 pages in, and there is still predominantly more rumor than fact...I suppose my realty is in a "wait and see" status until actual information is released.

 

[Razorbak86]

And parsing fact from rumor on this forum is a messy task, regardless of what random internet experts say about supply chain and vendor delays.

8 pages in, and there is still predominantly more rumor than fact...I suppose my realty is in a "wait and see" status until actual information is released.

In both my business and my investments, I know full well that where there’s smoke, there’s often fire. I can’t afford to simply ignore rumors and assume they’re not true just because they’re unverified. I do my own research and satisfy myself of what the likely situation really is, despite significant uncertainty at times, and I make prudent decisions based on all available information, both confirmed and unconfirmed. That’s just the way I roll. YMMV.

 

[croyco]

This has become boring and depressing. I feel like we have been stuck in neutral if not reverse for the past six months. If Webasto and whoever else can’t get the job done in a reasonable amount of time which they obviously haven’t been able to do so far then Ford needs to kick them to the curb and find somebody who can.

I agree totally, who ever the supply chain mangers are for Bronco they should be fired.

 

[Chrism81]

Maybe we will get lucky and we will get that magical May email about where production stands

 

[croyco]

so ugly. So so ugly.

I feel bad for you, OP. Go get in one at a dealer, if you can. That helped me a little. Pretty soon (and I'm talking days) lots of dealers will have them and you'll be able to test drive. That should also help. I might test drive ever couple of days until mine comes in.

There's probably a name for what you (we) are experiencing. But you (we) are passionate people. We are people that want something very specific that does not yet exist. We are people that are willing to buy a car that hasn't been made yet and there were no demo models to check out. That's not normal. We are the fringe. And as any fringe element, you are going to feel highs and lows at a greater impact than regular people.

In a couple years, Ford will be pumping out a couple hundred thousand of these per year (just like jeep does). And then they'll loose this unobtanium allure that we are all suffering from. Every Tom, Dick and Harry will be able to walk into a dealer, pick a color and a few options, and get a vehicle sourced from a network in their area. They'll get it in a few days. Is that better? Are you that kind of person? I'm guessing no.

Look man, you gotta get it together. I am giving you medium-hard virtual slap in the face. SNAP OUT OF IT! Be tough. You are gonna get a Bronco. NOBODY has one right now. You will get one of the first ones available. It's just going to be a little while longer. You can do it.

I'm driving a goddamn minivan right now while I wait.

I am driving my ATV to work. Not fun sort of.
Been a Jeep guy all my life, and built a lot of them. I know how much work and $ it takes to build a off road SUV to the level of a Bronco with the full off package. The Bronco is way cheaper.

 

[Russ1Bronco]

That's because we have been trained to have the attention span of a hummingbird. We get all excited about the new hotness and then if we don't get what we want we get bored and move on to the next thing.

https://www.f150gen14.com/

If you want to relive the Bronco misery just head over and look at the wide eyed and optimistic people on the Lightning forum. It will make you feel old and wise. You can just nod you head and go "I remember when I was that enthusiastic about a vehicle..."

..Their optimism is brand new...give it time...

 

[cecrc881]

I read them...tell me the part where they said there were delays due to MIC tops?

I get that it is popular to feel angst about this process, it seems mostly undeserved, IMO.

OK, who let the Webasto CEO in here, we really need to get a handle on who we let in here, just sayin!

 

[Southern Girl]

The way I'm looking at it is Ford is like Santas toy shop. The Bronco is the new hot toy that everyone wants so badly. Webasto is like Elf (Will Ferrell) and is constantly behind on his daily quota and is well a cotton-headed ninny muggins...

Perfect analogy.

Maybe if we all sing loud enough, it will create enough Bronco cheer to make the tops work.

 

[elbroncodor]

These were supposed to come out summer 2021. It's not even summer yet. I have two reservations and two VINs. Seems on track to me.

 

[Chrism81]

OK, who let the Webasto CEO in here, we really need to get a handle on who we let in here, just sayin!

yea I try to go over there and spread some knowledge . There has to be a bunch of bronco reservation people over there besides me.

 

[Jamiegla1]

If I dont get any kind of timeframe this week, ill be pretty upset. I think most of us are ok waiting to get the Bronco. We just want to know that things are being taken care of and that our orders are being respected. We just want to know about WHEN we will get the Bronco.

These forums provide a little too much information and speculation. Thats driving some of us to get a little crazy.

 

[myrealname123]

Time for a drink.

 

[AZshot]

My question is why did Ford push the Modular top an entire production year out? What, they don't EXPECT Webslacko to be able to successfully make ANY mod tops until December? Did they give them a contract modification, saying "you couldn't meet our supplier requirements to make these in 2021....no worries....just get your act together and try again next year."?

This top fiasco is called supplier non-performance. They need to be heavily penalized on their award fee, as well as probably having the top contracts open back up for bids from other companies. The above posts that say "it would take as long to get a new company making tops" is just uneducated guesswork. A good plastics molding company could follow the DESIGN (yes, there are blueprints for these tops) and crank them out within a month of two of contact award.

Or.....Ford just lets Webslacko off the hook, and tells 60,000 reservation holders to "just get the floppy top."

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