Thinking about Bob Moses ceramic coating.

[CalvinT]

I'm thinking about getting a ceramic coating applied by Bob Moses. They use Sensha coating which they say is SiO2 for what it's worth. The treatment includes paint correction, iron removal, and other steps. They'll give it a seven year warranty and say I don't need to do any maintenance other washing it.

They want $1350 for paint and glass and will give a seven year warranty and I don't have to do any maintenance other than washing it. My local dealer had a Bronco Round-Up. The local Bob Moses shops were offering a discount, the offer is good until Monday 12/16/24. But I might be able to get them to extend it.

I understand ceramic coating doesn't prevent pinstripes. I thinking about the coating to extend paint life since I keep vehicles a long time and for ease of washing. The Bronco is parked outside.

It's too hot in the summer to wax a car. So if I did it myself I'd apply either Cerakote or Turttle Wax Hybrid solutions in the spring before weather warms up and again in the fall after things cool off. Both were highly rated by ProjectFarm. The rest of the time I get out the pressure washer and foam cannon.

Anyways. I need some feedback and opinions before I make my final decision.

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[Bschurr]

I don’t know who Bob Moses is but, I can tell you that if you enjoy having a nice clean vehicle, proper Ceramic Coating is an excellent way to ensure that time spent washing, waxing, polishing etc is significantly reduced by this product and the post wash results are superior to not having any coatings applied (wax, graphine, details spray etc). I truly doubt the 7 year zero maintenance claim since most Ceramic products require annual touch ups/maintenance however, the benefits of Ceramic are amazing.

Let’s break down the price (assuming the 7 year warranty is truly zero maintenance and the $1350 price is all in:

• $1350 for 7 yr protection = $192.95/yr
• 52 car washes per year = $3.71/was
• Your labor is 30 minutes/wash
• Conservatively, the Ceramic saves 50% of car washing time
• Minimum wage in NY is $15/hr

Assuming the data above is correct, you would save 15 minutes or $3.75 each wash by spending $3.71 up front.

Now - of course the data above is incorrect because you don’t wash your car 52 times a year and you don’t make $15/hr and it doesn’t take you 30 minutes to wash your car and I haven’t included the present value of $ in the scenario above and you may not keep your Bronco for 7 years and, and, and…

So, you need to ask yourself, is $1350 worth it to you?

 

[vicorjh]

I'm thinking about getting a ceramic coating applied by Bob Moses. They use Sensha coating which they say is SiO2 for what it's worth. The treatment includes paint correction, iron removal, and other steps. They'll give it a seven year warranty and say I don't need to do any maintenance other washing it.

They want $1350 for paint and glass and will give a seven year warranty and I don't have to do any maintenance other than washing it. My local dealer had a Bronco Round-Up. The local Bob Moses shops were offering a discount, the offer is good until Monday 12/16/24. But I might be able to get them to extend it.

I understand ceramic coating doesn't prevent pinstripes. I thinking about the coating to extend paint life since I keep vehicles a long time and for ease of washing. The Bronco is parked outside.

It's too hot in the summer to wax a car. So if I did it myself I'd apply either Cerakote or Turttle Wax Hybrid solutions in the spring before weather warms up and again in the fall after things cool off. Both were highly rated by ProjectFarm. The rest of the time I get out the pressure washer and foam cannon.

Anyways. I need some feedback and opinions before I make my final decision.

Most ceramic coatings, including those available retail, have a chemistry that includes some type of polysiloxane. This is likely the SIO2 they've mentioned.

We did a DIY paint correction and ceramic coating on our Bronco. Took multiple days.

A couple of days for the iron removal, clay bar, polisher paint correction and perhaps another couple of days to apply the coatings, working intermittently throughout. We used two coats of Carpro Dquartz and then a third topper of Carpro SiC.

Part of this reliant on the weather. You'd need to avoid rain for a short period after application or if it's going to be blisteringly hot from sunshine. Different coating products will have differing initial cure times, minutes to tens of minutes, which will be affected by heat and moisture ... so you kinda need to do a test patch to figure out the best amount of time, depending on the environment, to remove the excess and avoid high spots ... basically there's some learning to do. Not complicated, just more involved than a simple wax and wash.

For us, turned out pretty good. Gloss was increased. About 1.5 years into this and the coating remains quite hydrophobic. Easy no-touch rinse off patches of dirt, mud, bird droppings, and so on. But, still needs the occasional two bucket wipedown to bring back the original gloss and performance. Leaf blower to dry ... which is very fast when compared to an uncoated vehicle. Moisture beads up and flies right off.

As far as price, I'd say it depends on how you value your free time. If your shop pays attention to detail, I don't find the quote out of line ... based on our DIY effort, equipment, and supplies.

Also, check out this guy's channel, who does a fairly comprehensive test of different coating products:

https://www.youtube.com/@ScottHD

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[Brian_B]

I just do the cheap DIY Megulars Ceramic, and just that makes a big difference. So I do believe in the power of ceramic coating.

I have to reapply it about 3 times a year.. but at ... $20 for the bottle, and the bottle lasts all year, not complaining.

Dirt washes right off, cleaning is massively easier. Re-applying it takes just a few minutes. I have a similar problem in the summer, if I wait until after 10am, the sun is too hot to do anything - so usually do it around 7-8am. A wash and wax I've got down to around 30-45 minutes

That said, would I spend that much on a professional application? That's a steep bill. I absolutely don't doubt that the professional application looks better and lasts longer. I'm not out with a clay bar doing paint correction on mine or anything.

So I think - for me, where mine is getting pinstriped and mud covered more than a few times a year, a professional job like this wouldn't be a great investment. But if it were a daily that gets garaged and you want it to stay looking sharp, I could see this as a good investment. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than PPF.

 

[CalvinT]

It's a heck of a lot cheaper than PPF.

PPF doesn't make sense to me. I understand it has to be replaced every five year or so. And It's not that much less expensive than having your car repainted. I bought Cactus Grey because it's an easy color for a body shop to match. I do have PPF on my headlights. It protects them from oxidizing and is good for around ten years.

Thanks for the replies so far. I did some research after posting and it seems like a good ceramic coating is worthwhile. So I'll probably go with it. I don't want to do all the work victorjh did. I don't have the time right now.

 

[CalvinT]

How many people tried Nu-Finish? It seems to have quite a following and is easy to apply.

 

[Dirtrider]

I'm thinking about getting a ceramic coating applied by Bob Moses. They use Sensha coating which they say is SiO2 for what it's worth. The treatment includes paint correction, iron removal, and other steps. They'll give it a seven year warranty and say I don't need to do any maintenance other washing it.

They want $1350 for paint and glass and will give a seven year warranty and I don't have to do any maintenance other than washing it. My local dealer had a Bronco Round-Up. The local Bob Moses shops were offering a discount, the offer is good until Monday 12/16/24. But I might be able to get them to extend it.

I understand ceramic coating doesn't prevent pinstripes. I thinking about the coating to extend paint life since I keep vehicles a long time and for ease of washing. The Bronco is parked outside.

It's too hot in the summer to wax a car. So if I did it myself I'd apply either Cerakote or Turttle Wax Hybrid solutions in the spring before weather warms up and again in the fall after things cool off. Both were highly rated by ProjectFarm. The rest of the time I get out the pressure washer and foam cannon.

Anyways. I need some feedback and opinions before I make my final decision.

I know a lot of people have Bob Moses (in Red Bay Alabama) ceramic coat their RV at $100/foot and swear by it. Too expensive for my blood though

 

[Blue Hen]

First thing I did when I got my Bronco home. Had most of the supplies already except for which ceramic coating to apply. My main concern was high spots. I chose Avalon King back in 2022. I have since done two more vehicles. I stopped by Apex Detailing and spoke with Brian. He suggested I use his Blue Collar line. Between the two I liked Blue Collar better. Light color vehicles like white and silver are much harder to see when the coating starts to flash. After I wash my vehicles I use Technicians choice TEC582 as a drying agent. Doesn't matter if you use wax or ceramic. Prep work is the key to a good finish.

 

[Mako]

IMO I bought ceramic coating from Ford , ( done by a reputable company here in Houston) I personally wish I had not but wish I would have went with PPF or something else but I off road and still get paint rock chips. Probably a wise investment for a parking lot princess which my Bronco is not. As I stated this is my opinion.

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