Sasquatch Tire conundrum

[Austin Bronco]

I have the stock SAS tires and 30k miles, they seem to be in Decent shape. Made me wonder when is it recommended to get new tires and what’s the warranty on the stock ones?

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[Chrome_Pony]

I know better, but I was being cheap (mostly to see if I want to be on 35's vs 33.5/37's) and picked up a set of 5 this weekend from @Discount Tire, with replacement certificates (given how likely they are to fail) it was $1150 for all 5, mounted and balanced.

I suspect that I am not going to like them, but I also wanted to keep the unsprung weight low considering that I am moving to the Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 struts, which would benefit from keeping the weight down on each corner - they aren't Fox 2.5 or 3.0 shocks after all. These are nearly 20# lighter than many other options, and 10# lighter than the 33.5" Milestar Patagonia M/T tires I am running.

If DT is still doing guaranteed satisfaction, could see if they'll swap the 315 Bridgestone Dueler AT REVO 3s since they are only +4.2lb from the OEM. I'm 99% sure those will be the upgrades from the 285 AT/KO2s I have now.

 

[hemiblas]

I know better, but I was being cheap (mostly to see if I want to be on 35's vs 33.5/37's) and picked up a set of 5 this weekend from @Discount Tire, with replacement certificates (given how likely they are to fail) it was $1150 for all 5, mounted and balanced.

I suspect that I am not going to like them, but I also wanted to keep the unsprung weight low considering that I am moving to the Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 struts, which would benefit from keeping the weight down on each corner - they aren't Fox 2.5 or 3.0 shocks after all. These are nearly 20# lighter than many other options, and 10# lighter than the 33.5" Milestar Patagonia M/T tires I am running.

If you bought them from discount and got the replacement certificates, you can't go wrong there. If they fail they will replace them. They are really cheap at Discount. I was looking at when my Goodyears go and I had the same thought as you. Around town, they do great in rain, snow, etc and with the lower weight the Bronco feels pretty quick for everyday driving.

 

[B Miller]

Hi Dave,

Sorry to hear you are having issues with the factory tires. If you're looking for a wonderful new tire that is the same size as a factory SAS tire, check out my latest tire life update on the new Toyo R/T Trails. They are a hybrid, 68 pounds, D rated, and have a reinforced sidewall for trail driving.

Funny, the 315's are a pound heavier that the 35 because of that extra sidewall.

Hope this helps!

Brian

 

[BroncoBuckaroo]

I would not be offroading on the stock Goodyears. They weigh 20 pounds less than everyone else for a reason. I remember at a Bronco event, they were all chipped and beat up, where I konw ko2s would have been just fine. I'd just use the spare for now and wait for the ko3s. I'd only buy another set if you are using them in town.

I have 55,000 on my original Goodyears and they look great, did a considerable amount of off-roading in them. They wore nice and even and not many chips if any at all. Still a pretty good amount of tread left too. I’m actually fairly happy with them, except that they hold gravel a bit. Saying that I have switched over to Falken Wildpeak AT4W 35”x17 ..and absolutely love these tires. So quiet, so far I have been in heavy down pours and good mud off road. They are impressive.

 

[Sparkherd]

Now the conundrum, I'd like to replace them with K03s but they won't be available until August.

KO2s are great tires!!! As are KM3s!!!
I will never buy Goodyears again.
Now why can't I add pictures?!?!?

 

[mpeugeot]

If you bought them from discount and got the replacement certificates, you can't go wrong there. If they fail they will replace them. They are really cheap at Discount. I was looking at when my Goodyears go and I had the same thought as you. Around town, they do great in rain, snow, etc and with the lower weight the Bronco feels pretty quick for everyday driving.

I think that they may even be lighter than the stock Black Diamond steelies and General Grabbers.

 

[swooshdave]

I have 55,000 on my original Goodyears and they look great, did a considerable amount of off-roading in them. They wore nice and even and not many chips if any at all. Still a pretty good amount of tread left too. I’m actually fairly happy with them, except that they hold gravel a bit. Saying that I have switched over to Falken Wildpeak AT4W 35”x17 ..and absolutely love these tires. So quiet, so far I have been in heavy down pours and good mud off road. They are impressive.

Now I want to see pictures of your tires.

 

[swooshdave]

Hi Dave,

Sorry to hear you are having issues with the factory tires. If you're looking for a wonderful new tire that is the same size as a factory SAS tire, check out my latest tire life update on the new Toyo R/T Trails. They are a hybrid, 68 pounds, D rated, and have a reinforced sidewall for trail driving.

Funny, the 315 is a pound heavier that the 35 because of that extra sidewall.

Hope this helps!

Brian

I’d consider those but I was also looking for a snow tire, especially considering how many times I got stuck this year. Or maybe that was because the snow was too deep…

 

[Icypu]

For the price OP, I went to DT and bought the insurance for $35 a tire. This is piece of mind as I trust the stock weight with the basic sasq suspension. DT quoted me $186 per Goodyear Tire which is $100 discount from the Wrangler version.

 

[tock13]

Hi Dave,

Sorry to hear you are having issues with the factory tires. If you're looking for a wonderful new tire that is the same size as a factory SAS tire, check out my latest tire life update on the new Toyo R/T Trails. They are a hybrid, 68 pounds, D rated, and have a reinforced sidewall for trail driving.

Funny, the 315 is a pound heavier that the 35 because of that extra sidewall.

Hope this helps!

Brian

Ever since watching your videos on this tire it has been my #1 choice to replace the territories this summer. When you say they are a bit slippery in the rain, can you expand on that a bit. I am in the same area of the country as you, up a state in the cascade foothills where moss grows well.

How bad are they in the rain? It sounded like they did okay from your snow review you poated. Do they lose traction easy in wet conditions or just a bit worse than the Goodyear Sasquatch tires?

 

[SeptuagenerianSasquatch]

Me: Badlands 4Door Sas, original Goodyears with good tread at 32K miles, mostly city & highway, about 5K dirt/gravel/trail

First, I like the Goodyear Territories/Wranglers. They do not claim to excel at every need for every 4x4 rig, but they are a good compromise for the elements of good (but not superlative) offroad driving, good (but not superlative) sand and mud use, good (but not superlative) road noise, & fuel economy, etc. etc. etc. Very serious, aggressive off-roaders will go for Nittos or something, but their wives may complain about road noise or reduced mileage or something.

Second, they're known as rock chuckers, which means they pick up rocks and throw them. In my case, they held stones, which worked through ply causing me flats. That was when I was a newbie. I now carry good air equipment (ThorsLightning), and will air down when or what seem to be well maintained (but aren't) dirt roads. Now, if you have to drive through construction zones? Hmmm....This problem is supposed to self-cure at 5-10K miles

Third, I lost a tire to sidewall damage on a trail. Had I known about Gluetread, I would have patched the side and used it sparingly as a donut spare (ha!): Limited use & low speeds.

I was able to get 5 K02s at a very good price, and got one mounted as my spare. When I wear down the Goodyears (I'm cheap!), I'll mount the other 4 and commence a 5-wheel rotation.

@swooshdave my suggestion: take the failing Goodyear to a good tire shop and see if they can remove it from the rim and patch everything that looks problematic on the inside, the remount and see if it holds air. Now (except for trails?) you can wear down your other 4 Goodyears until you buy your replacement K03s.
If it does hold air, be sure to check its pressure every week or so to be sure those patches are holding. Now do you want to hit a trail with this as a spare? Hmmm....that's a big decision. Maybe with other Broncos/Jeeps who could loan you a spare?

 

[swooshdave]

Me: Badlands 4Door Sas, original Goodyears with good tread at 32K miles, mostly city & highway, about 5K dirt/gravel/trail

First, I like the Goodyear Territories/Wranglers. They do not claim to excel at every need for every 4x4 rig, but they are a good compromise for the elements of good (but not superlative) offroad driving, good (but not superlative) sand and mud use, good (but not superlative) road noise, & fuel economy, etc. etc. etc. Very serious, aggressive off-roaders will go for Nittos or something, but their wives may complain about road noise or reduced mileage or something.

Second, they're known as rock chuckers, which means they pick up rocks and throw them. In my case, they held stones, which worked through ply causing me flats. That was when I was a newbie. I now carry good air equipment (ThorsLightning), and will air down when or what seem to be well maintained (but aren't) dirt roads. Now, if you have to drive through construction zones? Hmmm....This problem is supposed to self-cure at 5-10K miles

Third, I lost a tire to sidewall damage on a trail. Had I known about Gluetread, I would have patched the side and used it sparingly as a donut spare (ha!): Limited use & low speeds.

I was able to get 5 K02s at a very good price, and got one mounted as my spare. When I wear down the Goodyears (I'm cheap!), I'll mount the other 4 and commence a 5-wheel rotation.

@swooshdave my suggestion: take the failing Goodyear to a good tire shop and see if they can remove it from the rim and patch everything that looks problematic on the inside, the remount and see if it holds air. Now (except for trails?) you can wear down your other 4 Goodyears until you buy your replacement K03s.
If it does hold air, be sure to check its pressure every week or so to be sure those patches are holding. Now do you want to hit a trail with this as a spare? Hmmm....that's a big decision. Maybe with other Broncos/Jeeps who could loan you a spare?

I doubt any tire shops would patch a tire this bad even if I pinky swore it would only be a trail spare.

When I am out with a group it's all Broncos and yeah, worse case I could borrow a spare, but I also go out by myself at times.

Best case: Used Goodyear as a spare. Worse case: New Goodyear as a spare and keep it as a spare with the KO3s.

 

[23_Badlands]

Picked up this bolt with less than 2k on the odo. Discount/America's Tire wouldn't patch it, so we bought a new tire. Their "new" tire had a DOT date code 15 mo. older than the tires on our Bronco (about 4 mo. old). To their credit they tried ordering two more tires with the hope of getting a newer tire. Unfortunately, they all had the same DOT date code. Asked for a discount, but no-go. They said they'd only offer a discount if the tire was over 24 mo.

 

[jrollo7]

I was out in some pretty mild off road conditions (mostly gravel roads) and at regular tire pressure (39psi) and got a flat. Found a hole (although nothing indicating what caused the hole) so swapped to the spare. Got home and tried to plug the hole and then found another leak. Plugged that one (which was more of a pinhole) and then found even more pinholes. So tire is shot.

These are the stock Goodyears with almost 23k miles on them.

Now the conundrum, I'd like to replace them with K03s but they won't be available until August.

So do I get another Wrangler as a spare now and get the K03s later? Or get a set of something else now and hope the rest of the Goodyears last another couple months?

Hold off for the KO3s

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