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so 4H is ok on pavement as long as there is snow cover? sorry newbie here... i've always had awd no thinking required.
This is somewhat of a hot topic around here and you'll get a lot of opinions.

I'd use the exact same document that @omi205 posts and say that it does point out 4H is ok as long as you aren't on dry pavement.
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4H and 4L should only be used when needed. They are not normal driving "all time on" modes as they are locked. 4A is not locked and can be a "all time on" mode when conditions call for it.

The big considerations with 4H/L is that they are locked and there are speed restrictions you should not exceed. These two are truly intended for off road use. You do not want to have these on while driving around town or even where there is rain and good grip. I would even say snow with pavement (where the tires can get through) is also not a good use for these. Your tires should be slipping when you use 4H/L. That is the main point.

4A is different in the sense that there is no locking mechanism. Meaning the tires on each end can rotate at different speeds. In addition the same speed restrictions do not apply. You can put the Bronco in 4A and drive it like normal. Heavey rain. Light snow. Would be fine. All conditions where you have perfect traction is 2H (Always).
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unfortunately I don't have 4A. .. so it looks like 2H for me and 4H only in a blizzard or off road.... Probably never need 2L unless I am down a trail that I am not supposed to be..
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I am wondering though what the GOAT mode for Slippery does.... I know if regulates shifting and throttle response, but does it leave the vehicle in 2H?
Guess I will find out once I get mine the end of the week.
 
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This is me at my first off road event..
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I am on my 4th CX5. All but the 2014 have been AWD. I can say with confidence that your Big Bend with the manual t-case will 100% go anywhere you’ve taken the CX5 and do it with zero issues, rain, snow, sleet or shine. It’s all about driving smart.

Every 4x4 I’ve owned has had the old school 2h/4H/4L case and all but my TJ had manual hubs too. Never had an issue in anything MI or WA threw at me. Ice is the great equalizer, I see more jacked up trucks in trouble than cars.

In my opinion you’ll do fine with your Bronco, using the old noggin will keep you out of trouble most of the time!
 

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unfortunately I don't have 4A. .. so it looks like 2H for me and 4H only in a blizzard or off road.... Probably never need 2L unless I am down a trail that I am not supposed to be..
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I am wondering though what the GOAT mode for Slippery does.... I know if regulates shifting and throttle response, but does it leave the vehicle in 2H?
Guess I will find out once I get mine the end of the week.
You'll be fine. 4H/L is well more then enough. You will know when you need 4H and when to use it. If your on roads, with unplowed snow, going into 4H isn't going to break anything. You just dont want to be blasting down the highway in 4H. When you need it, you will know. Stop and put the bronco into 4H. And when your back into good traction. Change back to 2H. Like you mentioned you could always just use the goat modes and not manually change the settings.
 
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4H is good on any snow covered road, plowed or unplowed as long as at least one tire is in limited traction. It may be shifted in and out of 2H and 4H at will at any safe driving speed.
 

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Never having a 4x4 vehicle prior to the Bronco and buying a BB I had many of the same anxieties that you have. Compound that with many opinions on a message board and it’s hard to get a lot of confidence.

IMO get out and drive it in conditions you would need it. Experiment with what it feels like with it in 2H versus 4H. Feel your rear wheels losing grip and then put it in 4H and see how your Bronco responds. Get familiar with switching it back and forth on the fly. Understand if road conditions allow high speeds that you likely don’t need it in 4H. Learning a new skill can be scary but once you practice you’ll gain that confidence and will be giving the next person that asks this question the advice you once asked for (I asked this forum the same thing).

Needing to switch between 2H and 4H will make you a better and more aware driver. I wish I had 4A too but I wouldn’t have learned and gotten comfortable with the new skill if I did. Good luck and more important have fun!
 

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I know Sport mode gives you 4A but is there another mode with the 4A option? I was thinking I read somewhere there was but I added Sport mode just for 4A using FORSCAN.
 

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I have a 2024 Big Bend that I am taking delivery on this week. I noticed when ordering that the 4a (all wheel drive) feature was not available without ordering the Sasquatch pkg.
For those of you with only the 2H, 4L, 4H options and some selectable GOAT modes, do you regret not getting the 4A feature when it comes to driving in inclement weather? Or is the Bronco pretty capable in snow and slippery conditions without it? I am assuming that on dry normal driving I would be in 2H with the GOAT mode set to Normal or ECO (in town). If I would run into a pretty bad snow storm where the roads were snow covered and slippery, would it be appropriate to put the Bronco into either 4H or the "slippery" GOAT Mode which i believe engages 4H?
My Mazda CX-5 has always on AWD, so i'm used to that type of drive train experience.
Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated.
I did read this article for a reference..
https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/bronco-goat-modes-explained
Honestly 4a is another thing that sone people mess up. I work in a dealership and I've had some many broncos that people drive around in 4a all the time. I had to do so much work on transfer cases due to that fact. 4a is good and all but your are not supposed to leave it in that mode all the time. I never use 4a in my Outer banks
 

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Honestly 4a is another thing that sone people mess up. I work in a dealership and I've had some many broncos that people drive around in 4a all the time. I had to do so much work on transfer cases due to that fact. 4a is good and all but your are not supposed to leave it in that mode all the time. I never use 4a in my Outer banks
Interesting. So are you referring to customers who just leave it in 4A, regardless of weather / road conditions? Are you in an area with persistent snow and ice covered roads?

My Bronco is acceptable in snow, in 4A, compared to my winter driver. In 2H it is a pig. I wouldn’t want to drive, to say Aspen (which I do monthly in my winter driver) over multiple mtn passes and have to rely on 2H.
 

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I have a 2024 Big Bend that I am taking delivery on this week. I noticed when ordering that the 4a (all wheel drive) feature was not available without ordering the Sasquatch pkg.
For those of you with only the 2H, 4L, 4H options and some selectable GOAT modes, do you regret not getting the 4A feature when it comes to driving in inclement weather? Or is the Bronco pretty capable in snow and slippery conditions without it? I am assuming that on dry normal driving I would be in 2H with the GOAT mode set to Normal or ECO (in town). If I would run into a pretty bad snow storm where the roads were snow covered and slippery, would it be appropriate to put the Bronco into either 4H or the "slippery" GOAT Mode which i believe engages 4H?
My Mazda CX-5 has always on AWD, so i'm used to that type of drive train experience.
Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated.
I did read this article for a reference..
https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/bronco-goat-modes-explained
In my nearly 8 decades on earth I've driven over many thousands of miles on snow packed, icey, snow covered roads at reasonable speeds in 4H and have never had any mechanical issues resulting from it.
This has been in many brands and types of vehicles. Half tons to one tons, Ford ,dodge, GM ,Jeeps and my old FJ40.
I think the 4A is cool but seems like another gadget that may become a point of failure.
My 22 Base with MT works fine in 4H..though I've been in minimal snow.
Good tires and common sense are the big factors in winter driving.
Have fun.
Paul in AZ
 

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Never having a 4x4 vehicle prior to the Bronco and buying a BB I had many of the same anxieties that you have. Compound that with many opinions on a message board and it’s hard to get a lot of confidence.
Meh - it's a lot like oil / oil changes - a lot of strong opinions. In the end it really has a pretty good margin - unless your doing something like towing 142% of your towing capacity on 40" tires while jumping snow drifts, you probably aren't going to break anything.
 

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I would not drive 70 mph in 4H or regularly use it where we need to change direction a lot. Turning with front engaged won't break parts but I think it does create extra wear. 4H when you need it then switch back to 2H.

The main benefit of 4A is that you don't have to think about it.
 

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It does great in the snow with out 4A. I keep it normal mode, 2H pretty much all winter here in Chicago suburbs. When we do get snow, I still keep it in 2H unless the roads are really covered/snow packed. Even then, it does good enough in 2H. I will occasionally have to flip it to 4H to get going, then usually just flip it back to 2H.

I used slippery mode once when we had snow covered roads/freezing rain mix. Did not care for it.
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