Electronic parking brake?

[Beach_Bum]

from long experience with stick shift land rovers, turn off the engine and leave in gear.
don't depend on the parking brake off road

That just doesn't apply off road. I learned on an MT, and was always taught to turn off the engine and leave it in gear.

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[ZackDanger]

I could never get my parking brake adjusted perfectly in my Wrangler. I'd get it to where it would hold well on an incline but the shoes would drag. I'd back it off to where the shoes would not drag anymore but the brake wouldn't hold the Jeep on a steep incline. But, it did work great for screwing around in the snow :

I had the same problem on my 2014 JK... turns out when they changed my Parking Brake handle part (because of the popped rivet problem) the updates part *also* required a new cable of a slightly different length.

The documentation doesn’t list the new cable anywhere except as an asterisk under the new handle part, as a “oh, by the way, replace the cable with this new part number.”

My dealer spent days with different cables, all clearly slightly too long, but couldn’t figure out what the problem was. Multiple trips, multiple techs, a manager, and some guy literally screaming profanities and throwing tools in the service bay before someone discovered the issue. (Then the same guy starting swearing at FCA)

Now my parking brake works fine.

 

[ZackDanger]

Anton left his vehicle in neutral.
A mental error.
Not going to speak Ill of the dead.

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As an owner of a 6M transmission JK Jeep with the hand brake, I'm very sketchy about a vehicle with an e-brake under the bottom LEFT dash.

AFAIK, you can't do the classic stop at a steeply inclined road crossing.

Put it in neutral, pull the e-brake, take your foot off the brake.

When it's time to cross:
Depress the clutch, put it in 1st. Switch your right hand the e-brake, slowly release the clutch when ready to go.
Then release the e-brake as the clutch grabs.

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Does the Electronic e-brake release ONLY as the vehicle moves forward?

The Bronco has hill park assist, so when driving a manual, if you come to a full stop, and take your foot off the brake, the brakes remained engaged until you start moving forward.

Works really well. No need to mess with the parking brake.

 

[Johnny Mo]

^This^ Safest is to latch them directly behind the driver seat with a dog seatbelt

Mine rides shotgun - harness, latched to seatbelt. Pops gas cap open CONSTANTLY.

 

[D Fresh]

AFAIK, you can't do the classic stop at a steeply inclined road crossing.

Put it in neutral, pull the e-brake, take your foot off the brake.

When it's time to cross:
Depress the clutch, put it in 1st. Switch your right hand the e-brake, slowly release the clutch when ready to go.
Then release the e-brake as the clutch grabs.

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I don't get it. All the manual guys love to yell about how they can "really drive," and that autos are for ladies.

However, outside of my first six months driving as a teenager I've literally never needed to do this.

If you guys that are getting a manual need this or hill assist you're lying to yourself.

The Bronco has hill park assist, so when driving a manual, if you come to a full stop, and take your foot off the brake, the brakes remained engaged until you start moving forward.

Works really well. No need to mess with the parking brake.

I disabled this crap on my FiST the first day. Any manual driver worth a damn does not need it.

Might re-enable it when my kid starts driving, but probably not.

 

[wolfpackinva]

The Bronco has hill park assist, so when driving a manual, if you come to a full stop, and take your foot off the brake, the brakes remained engaged until you start moving forward.

Works really well. No need to mess with the parking brake.

I have the hill assist on my 16 focus. It only holds the brake for a few seconds. Then it releases.

 

[ZackDanger]

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I disabled this crap on my FiST the first day. Any manual driver worth a damn does not need it.

Might re-enable it when my kid starts driving, but probably not.

In my experience there’s no shame in embracing technology.

I race a motorcycle that doesn’t even have a tachometer, but that doesn’t make me worth any more damns than someone who does use one.

The Bronco comes with it. If you don’t want it, cool. It’s definitely not necessary.

But it’s totally okay to use or want it. No shame in that.

 

[ZackDanger]

I have the hill assist on my 16 focus. It only holds the brake for a few seconds. Then it releases.

Yeah, most hold it long enough to engage the clutch normally but release eventually... our BMW (and Mini before that) do it this way.

 

[Stitches1974]

The JK hand-lever parking brake is not very reliable. Mine broke on the boat ramp - fortunately while I was still in the driver’s seat. The replacement lever and spring ratchet was dodgy for years. I had to pump it up and down to get it to ratchet and then be careful to pull it where it would hold the Jeep but not pop the ratchet back to no tension. Finally I read that spraying brake fluid helps - which it does eliminate most of the tension pop incidents.

Nice to have a handbrake but not a sucky one like the Jeep JKs.

Never had an issue with my 2015 JKU parking brake and I parked on inclines all the time.

 

[Lcubed]

That just doesn't apply off road. I learned on an MT, and was always taught to turn off the engine and leave it in gear.

I think you’re agreeing with my statement.

 

[Dads_bronze_bronco]

Does the Electronic e-brake release ONLY as the vehicle moves forward?


Depends on the manufacturer. I was a Honda tech for years, e-parking brake would disengage depending on Load, accelerator pedal position A and B, throttle body position, brake pedal position, ABS unit, I’m sure a couple more. Any failure in any of those systems the electronic parking brake/ Hill Start Assist wouldn’t do anything and You’d get a DTC. To me it would disengage just in time with normal driving. Never felt slow or fast, just right. I’ve only driven Honda’s with manual trans and hill start assist. If I driven other manufacturers or ford I just don’t remember so I’ll assume it functioned the same way ?

On my wife’s Audi it disengages when you go and reengages when you stop again. I am not sure what the triggers are, but at least it is not a PITA.

 

[Dads_bronze_bronco]

Never had an issue with my 2015 JKU parking brake and I parked on inclines all the time.

It was pretty solid for the first two or three years on mine. Then the problems started. Maybe they fixed it by 2015. Mine is a 2008.

As for the Bronco: I prefer an old skool handbrake, but maybe the electronic one will be less of a hassle for me. I do wish the control was accessible on the right “control hand” side, rather than the left “steer hand” side.

 

[Dillhole]

JK parking brakes are junk! If you accidentally drive with it on for even just a few feet it's never the same. These Jeeps burn through rear brakes, and every time you change rear rotors the parking brake is always in the way so it needs to be backed off, then the adjustment hole is conveniently placed BEHIND the caliper so to re-adjust you basically need to pull the brakes apart just to get access to the little opening. It will feel proper with no wheels on, but bolt everything back together and it doesn't hold. I went without a functioning e-brake for 4 years and in that time it seized up and had to replace the whole parking brake assembly. I use it every day now just to keep it functioning and legal for inspections. Never had so many hangups with parking brakes as I have with my JK. Ugh


?that's for you JK parking brake

 

[Delasangre]

I drove one of the last manual-transmission Subaru Legacy models, which was also the first to have the EPB. Seem to recall if you applied the EPB but then let out the clutch while in gear, it would release the parking brake, effectively serving as a hill-start aid. I kinda liked that.

If I remember correctly I had an Audi that did that, dual clutch transmission not a stick but if you put it in drive it stayed on, it wasn't until you have it some throttle is kicked off and let you drive away.

 

[King Luis]

Most electronic parking brakes require you have the brake depressed when engaging or disengaging. So unless your dog is a Great Dane with incredible dexterity, you're fine.

winner winner chicken dinner. don't know why this wasn't mentioned in the first page of the thread.

pretty much anything electronic needs some sort of trigger to activate it. just like how you can't change an automatic car from park to drive without hitting the brake and/or the button on the selector. FCA has had recalls for this. My brother has or had it on his ram diesel. something along the lines of when you put the car in park, it might not stay locked in park and could move into neutral/out of gear and car can roll.

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Recall Number
14V161000
Recall Date
04/01/2014
Component
POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Summary
Chrysler Group LLC (Chrysler) is recalling certain model year 2014 Ram 1500 4x4 vehicles manufactured January 24, 2014, through February 5, 2014. In the affected vehicles, the transmission case may have been improperly machined which can result in the park pawl not properly engaging when the transmission is in the 'Park' position.

Consequence
If the park pawl does not properly engage, the vehicle may rollaway, increasing the risk of a crash and occupant or pedestrian injuries.
What Owners Should Do
Chrysler will notify owners, and dealers will inspect and replace the transmission, as necessary, free of charge. The recall began on May 21, 2014. Owners may contract Chrysler at 1-800-853-1403. Chrysler's number for this recall is P13.
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