Do you REALLY want that high package

[Erock]

He means time to clear the shelves of outdated commodities... stuff no one wants added to packages

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[Mattwings]

"WE MAY send communications about products, services, offers, promotions, news, and more that are customized based on your personal information, including your location, speed, and driving characteristics."


https://owner.ford.com/privacy/privacy-notices.html
https://www.ford.com/help/privacy/
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20160809-your-car-is-not-your-friend
https://www.adaptautomotive.com/articles/672-ford-collaboration-includes-access-to-telematics-data
(The Exchange makes driving data more accessible from Ford connected vehicles and informs insurers of drivers with qualifying discounts)

Relevant discussion


I will pass on the FordPass.

Agree with BlazinGTO that we need better legislation.

This has been beaten to death, but they do not share information with your insurance company unless your insurance company has a program with them and you opt in. The OBD2 information has been collected forever and can be accessed in certain cases. The Bronco brings nothing “new” to the table in data or connectivity. It’s definitely not as “invasive “ as the internet tracking or your cell phone. The auto manufacturers (including Ford) have been very conservative and biased towards customer privacy and data compared to many industries. I get if you don’t like it, but it’s not something you can avoid unless you have an older vehicle. I would watch out for our legislators doing a good job “protecting “ us, their track record isn’t very good in the past. Better to have your $$$ vote IMO. I worked for a very large data company and what they collect and connect is truly astonishing. That being said, data use and privacy was by far the biggest priority. Partly due to legislation, but largely due to the market and how it would punish them if they made mistakes in either case.

 

[Mattwings]

From the BBC report on this:

That said, this January Ford announced it had entered into a partnership with Amazon to allow its drivers to connect to their cars and Ford’s technology through the cloud. This new feature effectively turns the car into an Amazon Echo on wheels. The Echo is an always-on device that has already sparked huge privacy concerns as it sits in your living room quietly and passively listening for you to give it a command. And now it will quietly listen to you in your car as well.

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20160809-your-car-is-not-your-friend

Allow, not require, that’s the key. If they made you connect to Amazon and captured tour data as a part of the vehicle, that would be problematic IMO.

 

[Used2jeep]

I could tell you plenty of places you can go where none of the tech works. Does that help you any?

I've got bodies to bury...

 

[JaxGtc]

including useless crap no one wants

Like those GOAT modes.... just give me what I need:

Yes, that is a Easter Egg.

 

[Brongo]

Is there a Bronco with a radio only ? Or where is that switch ?
Big Brother

 

[brocotect]

No.

But I don't even want mid.

I just want a cold weather package like jeep offers

As for the tinfoil hand stuff. Get over it cause you're already being watched.

 

[Lilj4425]

I don’t want high package. I want the lux.

 

[ZackDanger]

I hate to disappoint anyone, but usually the people who are the most alarmist about being monitored and tracked aren’t important enough to monitor and track.

When it comes to private companies, they only care about the data in aggregate. Knowing how many times *you* go to Whole Foods is useless data... knowing how many times *everyone* goes to Whole Foods is gold. Sure you’re being tracked, but not because they want to know anything about you.


That thing where an old hippy thinks they’re still relevant enough that the NSA will want to read their Public Radio annual donation receipt emails.

 

[soupcook]

BUT WHAT IS SHELVES TIME?!?

It's "clear the shelves" time. i.e. I only want an AM radio and Ford makes me buy FM and satellite radio to get it. "Clear the shelves" for all the unwanted features.

 

[Mango&Moose]

I'm already on all 'the lists'

 

[ZackDanger]

The thing about insurance rates... the insurance companies aren’t naïve. They’re quoting you rates based on how they expect you to drive, and that includes all the speeding and distracted driving you already do, and then some.

If an insurance agent was sitting next to you in the car they’re unlikely to be surprised or alarmed... and if they are you are such an outlier you probably do deserve to have your rates changed.

Insurance companies already know the overall accident and injury rates. The reason they have programs to opt in isnt to gather that data, it’s because when people know they’re being watched they tend to behave even better then the average... and in this case, would reduce insurance payouts.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

Is there a Bronco with a radio only ? Or where is that switch ?
Big Brother

Sure there is, an old Bronco. No way to evade capture in a modern vehicle.

On the bright side, getting a new Bronco means that whenever we "need" to find you, we will.

 

[Zeno]

Since I have already been abducted by aliens and a chip inserted under my skin, I am going with the LUX. I hear that the LUX package interferes with frequency waves from the mother ship.

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

Yes but Ford won't let me have it on a Black Diamond.

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