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Because he specifically asked about LSDs.
I get it, just don't understand why for on road traction purposes its a necessity. I've never been in a situation on road with good tires that any standard 4H or 4A system wasn't adequate
 

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I get it, just don't understand why for on road traction purposes its a necessity. I've never been in a situation on road with good tires that any standard 4H or 4A system wasn't adequate

Necessary wasn't part of the question. He asked a simple question of which LSDs were available.
But more specifically to your question, if you have used the same vehicle with all the modern traction devices with an open diff and a Torsen style diff, you would be hard pressed to say they were the same. The Torsen style LSD does offer advantages to the open diff. No matter how good my Toyota traction control was, it would still spin a tire in certain conditions on wet or slick highway. Adding a TrueTrac got rid of almost all spinning unless I try to make it do so.

Sure, modern traction control is great. It really is all one needs. Sometimes though, people want even better performance and it's not just about what one needs to get down the road.
 

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Necessary wasn't part of the question. He asked a simple question of which LSDs were available.
But more specifically to your question, if you have used the same vehicle with all the modern traction devices with an open diff and a Torsen style diff, you would be hard pressed to say they were the same. The Torsen style LSD does offer advantages to the open diff. No matter how good my Toyota traction control was, it would still spin a tire in certain conditions on wet or slick highway. Adding a TrueTrac got rid of almost all spinning unless I try to make it do so.

Sure, modern traction control is great. It really is all one needs. Sometimes though, people want even better performance and it's not just about what one needs to get down the road.
That makes sense. I'll admit I have not driven anything with a true Torsen style LSD so I guess I don't know what I'm missing there.
 

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That makes sense. I'll admit I have not driven anything with a true Torsen style LSD so I guess I don't know what I'm missing there.
missing meaning missing out on.
 

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The troll. I mean OP is trying to clickbait you into arguing about LSD in snow and it’s march.
If I hear about a GD Sahara once more I’m gonna buy them all and sell them to carvana so he can’t have one.
 

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That makes sense. I'll admit I have not driven anything with a true Torsen style LSD so I guess I don't know what I'm missing there.

I'll tell you, they are awesome. I'm driving in a pasture almost daily on wet grass, at low speeds. A spinning tire is a bad thing as it causes erosion. There were many times I had to put my Tacoma in 4wd to keep from digging a rut. Once I put the TrueTrac in the rear, I didn't need 4wd and I didn't dig ruts. It's amazing the difference, even with all the modern traction control in certain circumstances.

There's a certain stop sign on the highway near my house that requires a steep climbing turn at more than 90 degrees(the turn, not the hill). Even on dry pavement I could spin a tire with the open diff. Wet pavement it was certain. Add the TrueTrac and I really have to try to spin.

Do I need it, no, but it certainly makes my life easier.
 

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The troll. I mean OP is trying to clickbait you into arguing about LSD in snow and it’s march.
If I hear about a GD Sahara once more I’m gonna buy them all and sell them to carvana so he can’t have one.
Great. That'll just put more demand on Bronco and make them harder to get as well... 😁
 

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This is not a LSD, just a varient of a locker with less predictable driving behavior than the stock e-lockers.
I am aware it’s a ratcheting lunchbox locker, it would be atrocious on the front axle in snow. Throttle equals instant lock.
 

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I drive generally uncleared and usually snowy roads late Nov through March daily so winter driving is really my only focus.

unfortunately no studs as I need drive into the city as well so I’m at the mercy of studless winter tires which the Hakka r2 now 3 are best I’ve discovered
 

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I am aware it’s a ratcheting lunchbox locker, it would be atrocious on the front axle in snow. Throttle equals instant lock.
Gotcha, just making sure that was clear. I've run them front and rear in snow and once you get used to them they're manageable.
 

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For some clarity, Trac-Loc is junk... It's a clutch pack LSD that wears out at about 30k miles and becomes useless. A Torq locker (lunchbox) is a no-no in the rear of any street driven vehicle with traction control. It sends most traction control software into a total fit leading to limp modes, etc. In the front they aren't horrible, but there are much better choices... Yes, I have and have had them all.

Powertrax Grip Pro would be my first choice, fallowed closely by the Eaton TrueTrac. Both are gear driven LSD's and operate very much the same. A Bronco with F&R LSD would be a nice setup for all but rock crawling. I don't think either are in production yet.
 

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In defense of clutch type LSDs, I’ve had them in various pickups & SUVs throughout the decades; saying they are total junk is a gross overstatement. Do they eventually wear out? Yes of course, although that depends a lot on use & abuse. To wit, I’m currently driving an LSD-equipped F150 with 140,000 miles — it is still effective at helping in low traction situations & it does not chatter or have bad manners.

If I could find either a clutch or gear type posi for the front of my Big Bend I’d certainly give it strong consideration.
 

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In defense of clutch type LSDs, I’ve had them in various pickups & SUVs throughout the decades; saying they are total junk is a gross overstatement. Do they eventually wear out? Yes of course, although that depends a lot on use & abuse. To wit, I’m currently driving an LSD-equipped F150 with 140,000 miles — it is still effective at helping in low traction situations & it does not chatter or have bad manners.

If I could find either a clutch or gear type posi for the front of my Big Bend I’d certainly give it strong consideration.
Clutch type diffs have a not-undeserved bad rap, but a lot of modern ones aren't that bad. Ford switched to using carbon clutch plates about a decade ago, and they are considerably more durable than the older versions. My own anecdotal evidence is that the 85K mile diff in my F-150 is also still working pretty well. Doesn't mean I won't eventually change it, but I haven't felt it was necessary yet.
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