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We have seen bunch of issues with both engines and it seems that Ford is trying to address these issues with the latest produced vehicles. Based on all what we/you know, which one seem to be the more reliable engine at current point, 2.3 or 2.7? Just taking the reliability into consideration, which engine would you choose when you had to order a new Bronco?
Having owned a 2 dr with 2.7 since 12/21 and 12 k on the odometer wouldn’t do anything different. Power is great out wheeling, transmission rocks off-road and on road. Fuel MPG isn’t an issue and anyone in my immediately family can also enjoy driving my baby.
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My big push for the 2.3 was the 7 speed. I would have liked the transmission but after several test drives went for the 2.7 and 10 speed.
You were able to test drive a manual?

Jason
 

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I’ve had the 2.3, 2.7, 3.5, all were and are good engines to me. But I’ll take my 2.3 I currently have over the 302 I had in my ‘89 any day. Half the cylinders, twice the power.
 

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Any engine, of any make/model/year can have issues. I went with the 2.7 as it was the largest available option, and I would do so if I were to order again as well.
 

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Escalade V?

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That’s a $150,000 vehicle.

I think a bunch of people (like @MNBigfoot) who want a “common man” naturally aspirated V8 that doesn’t cost a fortune.

But those days are likely over. The only time manufacturers are going to put a new V8 on a mid-sized SUV is if it is some performance monster. Otherwise it’s kind of pointless. 3.5L EcoBoost on the F-150 gets better performance than V8. Even the 3.0L EcoBoost Ford put in the Bronco Raptor has comparable performance numbers to the V8 Coyote while being lighter and better fuel economy.

Granted I’ve been surprised before, never expected Ford to release the Bronco with a manual transmission and they did. But yeah, I doubt it.
 

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Both are reliable engines in my opinion.

The 2.3L is an evolution of the old Mazda L engines (that Ford called “Duratec”)… which have been around since the mid-2000s. I guess you could say it almost a more “traditional” design, but don’t necessarily agree with myself by saying that. It is used in a wide variety of vehicles…. Focus, Mustang, Explorer, Ranger, etc. Great engine overall if you can keep the pistons cool, which Ford does by spraying the underside of the pistons with plenty of oil. So oil changes are very important for the long-term life of the engine (any engine really, but especially this one).

I am not super familiar with the 2.7L, but from what I understand it is less of an evolution and more of a “net-new” design. The first generation was used on a bunch of different Ford/Lincoln vehicles, including my favorite Ford Edge that Ford ever produced. The second generation which is used in the Bronco is only used in the F-150. I don’t know all of the changes they made on the second generation, but I haven’t heard of any major widespread issues. (Most of the F-150 issues revolve around the transmission.)

Personally I’m on team manual transmissions, so I’m forced into the 2.3L… although to be honest that probably would have been my choice anyway. I am relatively familiar with the Mazda L design, and have already owned several vehicles with the Mazda L engine including my current daily driver (Focus).

Also an added benefit… once my Bronco arrives all three of my vehicles will use the exact same oil filter. (y)


Oh don't worry… that’s coming. Well… a hybrid is coming for sure—full EV probably not for a long while.

The Wrangler 4xe is selling surprisingly well and has generated substantially more interest than the Wrangler 392. So no doubt Ford will want to hop on that bandwagon. (Honestly… a PowerBoost Bronco would be kinda cool.)
I’m 100% in on a PEV Bronco
 

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You were able to test drive a manual?

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I actually got to drive two manuals. I had to drive out of town but Atlanta had a black no options big bend and Huntsville had a Black Diamond in Velocity blue. Both manual 7 speeds.

The Black Diamond had 35’s added and it just did not feel as good as the cactus green wild trak after back to back drives. You just could not tell how much of the feeling was the 2.3 or the gearing of the Black Diamond with the upgraded rims and 35’s.

I went with the 2.7 and auto and it’s a great setup. I have yet to find a Badlands Sasquatch with the 2.3 and 7 speed. So I really don’t know if it was a mistake.

I have a feeling I would have liked the manual more but for $1800ish difference in price, the 2.7 and 10 speed seemed like a great deal and I knew I liked it after test driving several.
 

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Both and neither, but I’m happy with the 2.7 for now

It’s like asking if potato chips or fries are healthier
 

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I'll show my ignorance here and say that having never owned a vehicle with a turbo, I know nothing about turbos and longevity. I keep my vehicles for decades, so something that'll have a good chance of making 200K miles is pretty much a prerequisite. My daily driver turned 246K miles a few days ago. I plan to keep the Bronco I have on order until it finally gives up the ghost. It will be the only vehicle I've ever bought new in my life. I have serious concerns about a turbocharged engine lasting that long. My current order is for the 2.7L, as my opinion (right or wrong) is that higher displacement equals longer life.
 

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Escalade V?

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Same engine in CT5-V Blackwing and it’s base goes all the way back to the 2015 Z06. Nothing “new” here. Really just a bigger supercharger than CT5-V.
 

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Same engine in CT5-V Blackwing and it’s base goes all the way back to the 2015 Z06. Nothing “new” here. Really just a bigger supercharger than CT5-V.
Are you saying that Cadillac can use an existing V8 in one of their cars but Ford can’t? I don’t get your point.

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Are you saying that Cadillac can use an existing V8 in one of their cars but Ford can’t? I don’t get your point.

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I don't think any V8 can fit and it still pass crash safety test. Plus the factory the Bronco is built in, they aren't set up to handle a V8. So they would need a new V8. With all the government fines for being over an average MPG, it would cost to much for Ford put a V8 in the Bronco. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but they didn't even put their 3.5 EcoBoost in the Bronco because of room.
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