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  1. Dealership Changing MSRP Deal

    Bullshit. If its true, the OP should name names. The dealer is telling all their order holders this. Its not meant to be a secret. Facts are facts.
  2. Off Road Mods People Think Are Cool, But Really Aren’t

    Angry anything on a jeep. A jeep is supposed to smile at you. Not scowl.
  3. It's started. Here's what you can get for just shy of 80K

    Only an idiot would buy a car to flip and then have a lien on it. Send him 80K so he can get the title in a month?? No thanks.
  4. NJ/NY/Delaware/Eastern Pa./MD/Ct Volume Buyers?

    Hah. Well, before Ice cream, someone mentioned life changing while they waited for their Bronco. Also, the market changes. One of the reasons I'm leaning bronco over Jeep is the engine choices. If I get a Jeep, its going to be a Gladiator because overall, I'd prefer a medium sized pickup over...
  5. NJ/NY/Delaware/Eastern Pa./MD/Ct Volume Buyers?

    How did you get that heady topper??? Ha. You might as well publish a photo of Pappy 23. (which I don't actually like but it coveted by many) Here's a bit of trivia. Do you know why they say to drink from the can? Because their beer has repulsive chunks of yeast floating in it. You can't...
  6. MT with Mid package.

    I'm looking for input on this as to whether its a bug or intentional. Or if anyone has heard anything from Ford about this. When you try to add the mid package to a 4cyl Black Diamond, it forces the AT as an option. When you spec out a mid package in a Badlands, it allows you to keep the...
  7. Will You Be Able to "Forgive and Forget"?

    I agree 100%. Its just a car. And I also differentiate between companies that are acting in an evil way and those that are just incompetent. The issues here seem to be from honest incompetence. So no big deal. Having owned some rather interesting cars with intense owner groups on the...
  8. NJ/NY/Delaware/Eastern Pa./MD/Ct Volume Buyers?

    I get that for those who actually NEED. new vehicle, delays can be much more than an annoyance. You have to decide if you get a beater for 8 months or spend perhaps thousands to keep the old car on the road, or maybe even buy a jeep instead. The funny thing is that those who complain the...
  9. NJ/NY/Delaware/Eastern Pa./MD/Ct Volume Buyers?

    Its refreshing to see that you recognize how insignificant this "problem" is. I am very eager to get mine. But lets face it, the important stuff is still the important stuff. (Wife and kids healthy, financially secure, relationship with wife, kids, friends going well, etc) I still get into...
  10. Dealer doesn't know when he's getting a Demo. Is he an idiot?

    THANK YOU. I just entered my zip on cars.com and got a bunch of hits. Very interesting. "Bronco" was available as a dropdown in the Boston area.
  11. Dealer doesn't know when he's getting a Demo. Is he an idiot?

    The correct (since nobody has told me I'm wrong) is that if the dealers ordered a demo, they would be built before customer cars. Since customer cars are beginning to arrive at at least one dealer, its a safe bet that a demo that was ordered would be built by now. Which the dealer could see. So...
  12. How much over sticker would you pay to have your Bronco today?

    Paying 4% under invoice. I'll wait. My 07 Volvo just turned 140k. Its good for another 40 more.
  13. Dealer doesn't know when he's getting a Demo. Is he an idiot?

    I stopped by my local dealer today to see when their demo(s) is/are arriving. The sales guy said he has no idea and has heard nothing. I asked if I could speak to a sales manager who might know something. He said they discussed at their sales meeting that morning. So if customer trucks are...
  14. Changing Dealers if Bumped to MY22… HATE my Dealer

    Its got nothing to do with boomers. (Yes, I know its fun to say. But its getting idiotic) Its got nothing to do with the FEDERAL government. Its the state governments that restrict this. This is why Tesla was able to sell direct in some states and couldn't in others. Originally they were...
  15. Changing Dealers if Bumped to MY22… HATE my Dealer

    That's communist thinking. You walk in to buy a less desirable car in normal times, you expect and get a discount. Because the car is not actually worth the MSRP. Sometimes a manufacturer comes out with a car that even temporarily is worth more than its MSRP. The dealers have a right to...
  16. Rear Arm rest?

    Hah. Wow. Yes. Thank you for your photo. Our Bronco will be our family hauler. The kids are now old enough where I actually care about their accommodations. But like your photo shows, they aren't really good. Can you stick a water bottle in the door pocket? One other thing is with the...
  17. Rear Arm rest?

    Crap. The leather really doesn't look worth it to me. $2200 and its "leather trimmed vinyl" not all leather. And the only color is black. I was planning to order my Badlands with MGV and install some Katzkins.
  18. Rear Arm rest?

    I noticed in the TFL video that one of the models he was inside had a rear arm rest. I haven't seen that before. And while its certainly not a big consideration, I was wondering if anyone knew what options / package you needed to get for your interior to include one? Thanks. p.s. In the...
  19. What motor oil are you going to run in your 2.7?

    Mobil 1 has served me well. I've owned a turbocharged car since 1990 and never had a turbo last less than 160,000 miles. I've never had a timing chain wear out. I'm currently driving a naturally aspirated car with a timing belt and have let my changes slide to 10k miles, per the...
  20. “Plastic” Interior

    If Honda made the Defender, a lot more people would buy it. The 4xE jeep systems are interesting. I'm just a bit leery of a first gen plug in hybrid engineered by Fiat. Sorry. For what its worth, I keep my cars for 10+ years. The 4xEs are very good to lease though because the $7500 buys down...


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