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#EveryRaptorEver Doesn't mean I don't like them - but these are intentionally overbuilt vehicles. Heck, 95%+ of us who own (eventually) a "regular" Bronco won't use them to their capabilities, and that will be even more true of those who own a Warthog/Raptor Bronco.

May pull the trigger on an almost-new Mojave this week. It'll be fun to drive around for the next 4-72 months while I wait for my Bronco, and the wife can decide whether she wants to drive it or keep driving our JL, or get something else entirely. Gladiators seem to be holding their value so...

Most people haven't gotten a VIN yet. You won't get one until your vehicle is scheduled for build.

That's not how allocations get distributed. If your dealer is allocated 120 for the year, they're going to get about 10 a month. They aren't going to "burn through" all their allocations by June. When scheduling for January happens, they'll get 10 scheduled builds. Then Feb, Mar, etc. If on one...

Allocations is how every vehicle is distributed to dealers. It will absolutely continue to be used. Too much energy is extended complaining about allocations ruining everything without really understanding how they work. It's simply a way to distribute total annual production over the country...

Especially when the soft top supplier is also the hard top supplier you want to kick to the curb.

#onsoapbox I disagree. Not answering a question, or answering it more vaguely than desired, isn't lying. Lying is answering with deliberately false or misleading information. I am just sensitive to people maligning another's character that way. You may not agree with the way Mike Levine does...

So, you believe Mike Levine is "directly lying" to us. Can you share what he's said that you believe is a direct lie? I see him not sharing much with us. It's definitely frustrating. I'd love to know more. And I respect how challenging it is to try to meet the needs of 120,000+ people. Heck, I...

I don't know - if you have a MY21 (without issues, of course), it's going to always be a rare bird now. Getting more rare by the minute, it seems. There will be a market for 21s for quite a while, IMO.

I could see 12,000 more good MIC tops being the target for MY21 production.

As others have stated, the only indication Webasto was "fired" from producing MIC tops was in this thread as speculation. And it makes no sense whatsoever at the moment. Will they eventually be replaced? Definitely possible. And maybe already in process. But Webasto is going to have to continue...

What's going to suck for everyone in the bad batch is that no matter what the solution is, it's unlikely Ford is going to halt production to prioritize them. They'll find a way to grab any extras of whatever is holding them up as they keep producing others. As an example, I'd expect if there...

Jealous! That's very similar to my build, so there will be another one in Kansas at some point...enjoy!

If you haven't been told anything by Ford, it isn't coming tomorrow. That's, I guess, the rest of my point - most everyone is getting at least 6 weeks of advance notice, and that would seem to remain the case. You get scheduled - to date that initial scheduling is 4-8 weeks out. Then, after...

What you are saying in my opinion supports my point - if Ford's Q1 22 estimate would be at all accurate, I'd get it. But Ford saying Q1 22 is just a wild guess at this point based on very little relevant data. So what happens when you backwards plan based on that, but suddenly things shift on...

This is the part that makes me scratch my head a little. You want to plan around a date - I get that. But if the date you are given is based on wildly inaccurate, faulty data, wouldn't it be better at this point to wait another month or two or three and get a better picture of what's actually...

Still 8/30...but not holding my breath. Fairly loaded BL.

Completely dependent on your dealer. I'd talk to someone there.

It may be for sale as an abandoned order. I don't believe Badlands are even available to be ordered for when dealer stock is actually produced.

Fairly sure. The 4 you are talking about are likely customer orders. They're often auto populated in the online sales systems even though they are special orders. That said, there could be exceptions, but that wouldn't make much sense right now.