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I would assume the warthog/raptor is a 23 model year at best

Have you priced used raptors? They don't lose their value, I am seeing 1st year small v8 raptors for $27k with 187k miles. What will the raptor version of the bronco do to the non raptor versions? Logically for me a Rav4 Hybrid Awd will do 98% of what I need it to do and be fully loaded and...

I think we are getting a raptor version of the Bronco since they wont give us the Ranger Raptor since it would take sales from the big Raptor.

They put the heated steering wheel as a seemingly stand alone option but if you try to add it, it requires 10k worth of option with it.

adding any interior to a raptor adds 10k instantly.

order banks are open on the new explorer and they still dont have a b&p for it.

local dealer has a 40k and a few 20k fj60's also having owned an NA and a ND miata i would 100% go with a ND over any other generations.

i'm heavily leaning to punting on the 21 bronco. I pay off the daily in October and will be truly debt free for the first time ever. The upcoming Ranger Raptor, Next gen big Raptor, and Raptor version of the Bronco all but guaranteed in the next 2 years makes the 21 not look like the best...

i guess you havent looked at prices for these recently then?

if you want a nice/luxury offroader you are free to spend the money on the Lexus GX460 or the LX570/Toyota Land Cruiser. This is a vehicle made by a non luxury brand targeting a non luxury opponent.

Nothing, going to sell my land cruiser private party since i doubt a dealer will give me anything for a 21 year old suv with almost half a million miles on it

if the base has the option for a rear locker i will likely get that instead of the Sasquatch but we will see.

At this point I am waiting on the b&p to see if i can justify a bronco right now. I am leaning towards not getting a bronco and just buying a rallycross vehicle in cash and keeping my Land Cruiser then waiting a year on the Ranger Raptor or a big Raptor or trading my Land Cruiser in on a newer...

It would be mostly used for SCCA Rallycross so it doesnt particularly matter. But there are tons of placed to wheel around

lol no, we get the fully loaded gas model

i mean dealers carry base model Wranglers so why wouldnt they carry base model Bronco's?

ford doesn't have the best reliability with manuals behind the 2.3. at least in the mustang

backup cameras are federally required for all vehicles built after like July of 2019

if toyota cared they would be bringing the 70 series over. They are too conservative for their own good sometimes. See the A90 supra and the FRS/BRZ/86 and the Yaris where toyota just does some styling while the majority of the drive trains are not toyota, I mean the yaris is just a rebadged...

i dont think its worth it, since i would be going with an aftermarket bumper with a receiver anyway and etrailer will have a harness by launch anyway.