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It's like changing to a faster checkout lane at the grocery store, you start trying to outsmart the flow, you have a 50/50 chance of just waiting longer.

Manuals that I've loved: All my motorcycles, including my current 1968 Honda CB450 Super Sport and 1979 CB750. Count up the years those have lasted. Cars include a 1964 Falcon Sprint, Taurus SHO, Mazda Miata and many others. All manuals. Offroad sticks include a 1990s 4Runner and a Mazda...

I guess I didn't know what I was missing driving my 1995 manual 4runner for 260,000 miles, all out West, much on very hairy old mining roads, through sandy canyon bottoms, across deep rivers. It had no locking diff, just a stick and 4WD low.

Ford said they will honor the current price for any reservations/orders that are pushed to 2022. We can trust Ford to do what they promised, right?

Hot and soft tops don't work either. In Arizona we have months of sunny, 105 degree days. The mat finished, black soft top is going to absorb heat better than a solar panel, and transfer all that heat back inside. How's that going to feel in the cabin? Also, no convertible top I've ever had...

This is a great thread about manufacturing, something I've also been involved with in my career. I learned some things, such as how Ford would be better getting Webastos in gear than just cancelling and trying another vendor. I bet the tops problem is a combination of everything discussed, a...

Sorry, I work in a company that has to sell things strongly. Ford has done the reveal, the R&D, the sales very well. Their production planning hasn't been so good. Remember, they're cranking out the new Ranger, and the old F-150s just fine. Don't they build 900,000 F-150s a year, and...

And don't Webasto make both the Modular and the Molded in Color tops? Not smart to put all your supplier eggs in one basket. I'd like to know that the "millions are being spent on the tops problem" really means in their Renege on Built Estimate email I just got.

That was a miserable excuse for an "announcement" It was a total cop-out, telling all reservation/orderers to "shut up and color".

I'm a positive, understanding person. But this FORD announcement that they will NOT tell you any estimate, ever....is a "shut up and color" statement.

These Millennials don't know that whip antennas were the ultimate cool back in the original Bronco days. CBs had extra antennas, and many guys liked having 2 or 3 different ones on their cars or trucks. Many cop and government cars up until the 2000s you could spot by all their antennas. It...

It's called an analogy. Trying to help dimwits understand.

If you went to a restaurant and reserved a table for two, and the Maître D' said, "Thanks, we'll call you when you can be seated. I'm not saying when that will be." you'd complain too. But that's not what happens, the restaurant will tell you it will be about 30 min, so you decide to proceed...

I know this is an enthusiast forum. And the first reservations were the brave, confident ones. But there are tens of thousands of us that ordered later than last July, who wonder when WE WILL get ours too. I'm sure it sux to have been led on that if you ordered the first couple days, you'd...

I already bet $100 all orders will get some kind of communication about an estimated window when yours will be made. Production starts slow, works out the kinks for a few weeks, then goes faster and faster. Think of a graph showing a diagonal line going up about 45 degrees. By September...

Longevity and tweaking an engine beyond factory specs are not compatible. Drag racers rebuild their engines every run, but I don't know how long their transmissions last. I'd expect a short time. If you drive sanely Ford expects their engines/trans to last 200,000 miles I'd say. I have two...

I was impressed too, but it's about what I expected them to be. I expected very comfortable, good visibility, good ergonomics, high quality look/feel. I don't cotton to all the negative forum warrior conjectures....barely visit this site anymore...it's so much guesswork and snarky memes.

Overlanding is driving slowly to preserve the vehicle, not get stuck, and not scare wildlife or other trail users. 4wheeling is what you see in the commercials, crawling up a boulder field, going 60 MPH down dirt trails with a plume of dust behind you, drifting slides around corners. Two...

In 30 years of living in New Mexico, Arizona, and going from Copper Canyon in Mexico to Moab and Colorado, I never knew you COULD disconnect a sway bar (evidently I never needed to either). I think the scale of "off roading" goes from what I experience, to extreme boulder field crawling and...

I just saw the preview event, and asked the guy driving the Broncos around what he thought about notification. He said he ordered one, and he expects we'll all get the notification Ford promised.