It’s been stated before. Everyone claims they would buy the manual but most would settle for the auto once it came down to the end.
Sure first year initial sales from enthusiasts would be good. But the next 8+ years after that. Flat. Nothing. Sure thousands... as in like 5-10,000. Not enough...
First gear is not even 3:1! Good luck moving anything with that with out a Dana 60.
Take rate on wrangler is close to 12% give or take depending on year. But gladiator ate into those sales. Jeep didn’t gain any customers with that.
That leaves Tacoma. Which is close to 5%
So it might be a...
Duh your getting 20+mpg highway. It’s bigger tires.
Big tires are good for highway
Small tires are good for city.
I bet you I’d you daily that Jeep with 40s in the city you’ll be lucky to crack 10mpg
Can’t agree more!
This Bronco is a daily driver/ off-roader.
If your going to make a trailer warrior that’s killer in the rocks with massive Dana 60s and 40+” tires Then no. The bronco is not for you. But then again neither is the JL wrangler. At that point. Build from scratch or get a OLD Cj.
there is no regulation saying you can’t Make a truck suv cuv With that Im just pointing out. That the bronco is the most powerful manual truck/suv/suv with a manual you can buy. Everything else is a coupe/sedan.
also pointing out that those are the ONLY 5 vehicles you can get with. Manual that...
“Close range transmission”
The 7 speed ford has. Is 6.615 range excluding the crawler. 10.154 range with the crawler.
Close range means 5.0 range or smaller. Meaning sure you’ll get the low gears but likely no OD. Meaning bad high way milage. Meaning won’t pass EPA standards.
It’s not just...
- my torque curve may be a little off because I used Ford estimated animated torque curve Vs dyno. (Which a torque converter may have something to do with the difference)
Either way 5star shows both stock engines Dyno at 300lbft by 2750 rpm. Yes the 5.0 makes more torque from 0-2750. But it...
1 what tune are you using for the 2.7? Fords in house tune?
because five star 2.7 93 tune puts out a lot more than that, 460lbft at the wheels.
Stock vs stock
Has to be a $4,000. Supply and demand and cost.
Take rate is super low. I would shocked if the entire lifetime of the JL they sell over 80,000 diesel wranglers.
EPA and RND cost is huge! Takes a lot of money to get a diesel into a car these days.
Couple that with a Low take rate and you...
diesel take rate is even lower than manual!
Jeep said they regret offering it. Took them 18 months LONGER than expected to pass EPA. Sure the initial sales were great. But after the first few months . Sales are FLAT.
likely not going to hit 8,000 total units for 2020.
I think people are forgetting. Not only would ford have to RND a completely new drive train for the manual with the 2.7. cant just slap it in there and not tune the motor and adjust everything.
Also each drive train MUST be tested by EPA and IIHS. and that’s for 2 door and 4 door. So A LOT more...
that’s one thing your always going to get. Especially on a vehicle that for the most part a home run. People trying to find reasons why it’s not perfect.
1 word. Fitment.
This is the 3.0 Explorer. I can’t imagine that the Bronco bay is going to be any bigger. And you want to fit a much larger v8 in there? Good luck.
demand for v8s is down big time. To the point where ford is cutting production big time on Coyote production.
also not just EPA...
thats my point the purchaser will know if they know.
Also most camp sites I’ve been too have room
also we got a 10k lbs GVWR trailer custom made at work for $4000 let alone one you can get at a store.