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  1. 2.7L w/ manual trans (is Ford listening?)

    It’s been stated before. Everyone claims they would buy the manual but most would settle for the auto once it came down to the end. Sure first year initial sales from enthusiasts would be good. But the next 8+ years after that. Flat. Nothing. Sure thousands... as in like 5-10,000. Not enough...
  2. 2.7L w/ manual trans (is Ford listening?)

    First gear is not even 3:1! Good luck moving anything with that with out a Dana 60. Take rate on wrangler is close to 12% give or take depending on year. But gladiator ate into those sales. Jeep didn’t gain any customers with that. That leaves Tacoma. Which is close to 5% So it might be a...
  3. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    Duh your getting 20+mpg highway. It’s bigger tires. Big tires are good for highway Small tires are good for city. I bet you I’d you daily that Jeep with 40s in the city you’ll be lucky to crack 10mpg
  4. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    Can’t agree more! This Bronco is a daily driver/ off-roader. If your going to make a trailer warrior that’s killer in the rocks with massive Dana 60s and 40+” tires Then no. The bronco is not for you. But then again neither is the JL wrangler. At that point. Build from scratch or get a OLD Cj.
  5. 2.7L w/ manual trans (is Ford listening?)

    there is no regulation saying you can’t Make a truck suv cuv With that Im just pointing out. That the bronco is the most powerful manual truck/suv/suv with a manual you can buy. Everything else is a coupe/sedan. also pointing out that those are the ONLY 5 vehicles you can get with. Manual that...
  6. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    The new 5.0 has only been out since 2018 and the new 2021+ has cylinder deactivation in the f150. So no idea how good it is yet
  7. 2.7L w/ manual trans (is Ford listening?)

    “Scaleable “ meaning of you add the right parts to it can be that high. I believe standard was around 400lbft
  8. 2.7L w/ manual trans (is Ford listening?)

    “Close range transmission” The 7 speed ford has. Is 6.615 range excluding the crawler. 10.154 range with the crawler. Close range means 5.0 range or smaller. Meaning sure you’ll get the low gears but likely no OD. Meaning bad high way milage. Meaning won’t pass EPA standards. It’s not just...
  9. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    - my torque curve may be a little off because I used Ford estimated animated torque curve Vs dyno. (Which a torque converter may have something to do with the difference) Either way 5star shows both stock engines Dyno at 300lbft by 2750 rpm. Yes the 5.0 makes more torque from 0-2750. But it...
  10. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    1 what tune are you using for the 2.7? Fords in house tune? because five star 2.7 93 tune puts out a lot more than that, 460lbft at the wheels. Stock vs stock
  11. Tow capacity will keep me from switching...

    Only with the 3.2 v6 and awd and max towing package.
  12. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    Has to be a $4,000. Supply and demand and cost. Take rate is super low. I would shocked if the entire lifetime of the JL they sell over 80,000 diesel wranglers. EPA and RND cost is huge! Takes a lot of money to get a diesel into a car these days. Couple that with a Low take rate and you...
  13. Flat Tow New Bronco (Yes, Confirmed)

    it takes 0 engineering. Simple rule. If it has a transfer case. it can be flat towed.
  14. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    diesel take rate is even lower than manual! Jeep said they regret offering it. Took them 18 months LONGER than expected to pass EPA. Sure the initial sales were great. But after the first few months . Sales are FLAT. likely not going to hit 8,000 total units for 2020.
  15. 2.7L w/ manual trans (is Ford listening?)

    I think people are forgetting. Not only would ford have to RND a completely new drive train for the manual with the 2.7. cant just slap it in there and not tune the motor and adjust everything. Also each drive train MUST be tested by EPA and IIHS. and that’s for 2 door and 4 door. So A LOT more...
  16. Rear vents for A/C Air Conditioning in 4 Door Bronco Are Located Under Front Seats

    that’s one thing your always going to get. Especially on a vehicle that for the most part a home run. People trying to find reasons why it’s not perfect.
  17. Why do they have such a hard time deciding to put the 5.0 in?

    1 word. Fitment. This is the 3.0 Explorer. I can’t imagine that the Bronco bay is going to be any bigger. And you want to fit a much larger v8 in there? Good luck. demand for v8s is down big time. To the point where ford is cutting production big time on Coyote production. also not just EPA...
  18. Rear vents for A/C Air Conditioning in 4 Door Bronco Are Located Under Front Seats

    Rear vents under the seats in my grand marquis. After 20 years. Still gets chilly in the back seats. I see absolutely no problem with this.
  19. Flat Tow New Bronco (Yes, Confirmed)

    thats my point the purchaser will know if they know. Also most camp sites I’ve been too have room also we got a 10k lbs GVWR trailer custom made at work for $4000 let alone one you can get at a store.


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