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I still feel a ton of people complaining about X-Plan weren't even eligible to use it...

Nobody has said before, but it has been strongly hinted at the penalties are not monetary, but cutting allocations in the future on things like F150 and other fast movers. Also, the info from Ford said pricing will be locked in at the time of order. I bet we sign something that makes the dealer...

How does the dealer dick you over? Money, right? That's what I said, and can be gleaned from the plan pricing and capping dealer fees. I guess I should have added some emotion and said, "Plus it keeps those scum sucking, bottom feeder dealers from ripping you off and taking you for a ride...

I corrected my quote. Hit + instead of - and ran with it when proofreading. I'm not saying it's not a big deal, just clarifying that: #1 It's not a program open to the general public. #2 It's not a set price, and the discount depends on what the invoice price is with all options and the...

My bad. Hit the wrong button and the ran with it. ?

There's a lot of bad info here on what X-Plan is and what the cost is. First, it is a vendor/supplier discount for companies that work with Ford. There are stipulations to using it such as providing paystubs and proof of eligibility, which gets us to PIN numbers. You have to generate and...

So... the actual lowest part of the Bronco is the rear lower shock mount right? Is Ford actually measuring at that point? The tire size math doesn't add up for any measuring point though, no matter what you pick. The spread of clearance for tire size is 2.5" if you go with 30" and 35" tire...

Yup. Fifteen52s. And we've seen them on a model before. But I can't find one that matches on their site.

No... One is convex. The other is concave...

Are they Methods?

Good to see there is someone else local out here! I'm up in Andrews.

This.

Z-Plan. There are some rules about who can use their Z-Plan if they are eligible.

That's not true. X-Plan is a pricing plan Ford offers for vendors and suppliers. Dealerships can choose whether or not to accept X-Plan. The dealers that have openly stated they will accept X-Plan pricing have no control over what products Ford offers X-Plan on. They were being honest in saying...

So you would rather Ford not release any info ahead of time, at all, like they do with every single other product, and they debut it, then we wait a year, and place orders as part of dealer stock, and handle it the same way as an F150 launch? Ford has given more info and insight into the Bronco...

Why Mike Levine? He's a communications manager. Nothing to do with product development...

My old FoST definitely drove my decision for my Bronco color choice.

Something simple, with some dish, and nothing too expensive, as I fully intend on using my Bronco off pavement often.

Big Bend with rear locker or a Black Diamond is plenty for 99% of people on this page. Even Black Gap Road at Big Bend National Park, which is a Jeep Trail Badge trail, can be handled by almost ANY 4wd vehicle on the market with open diffs at both ends. I havent had a 4wd vehicle since my '85...