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  1. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Hope your right about that. We will know more when Ford communicates allocation to the dealers and the good ones (like Granger) reach out to those that appear to fall outside of that dealers 2021 allocation. Of course even then, it is far from an exact science given no one knows the reservation...
  2. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Your first paragraph - it is calculated individually. Your second paragraph - only an insider would know how Ford normally does allocations for Dealer Groups. I’d guess individually. I don’t think the second half of the calculation is doable if you combine different markets.
  3. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    A consumer will never have the inputs that calculate the full answer for a given dealer. We do know the formula penalizes dealers that take reservations outsize to their market. Nothing about that is speculation. The point is that Ford changed the production methodology. They haven’t...
  4. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Look again - I presume the ā€œnumbersā€œ you are referring to are the %’s. 50% of an individual dealer’s allocation is the dealer reservations thru 9/18 and 50% is a weighting of the competitive vehicle sales and his sales of other Ford product. There are a couple of examples in this thread where...
  5. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Makes no difference vs. an unaffiliated dealer selling the same number of units in the market. Unless your assuming that Jeep franchise wouldn’t exist in your market if your dealer didn’t have it.
  6. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    The formula is in the attachment to the first post. The specific numbers that will go into that formula for each dealer are not yet known, or at minimum not disclosed. As an aside, Ford will never provide the 4,000 plus allocation calculations for all the dealers (or any of the dealers for that...
  7. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    1) Correct, at least currently Ford says No for stock 2021 units unless all reservations are fulfilled. I think all 2022 reservations being ahead of dealer stock is more dubious based on Levine’s tweet. 2) If I correctly understand your Q and its parameters, I think you get it early. Ford...
  8. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    This was posted in another thread. I’m reposting here as it applies to Ford’s sentence removal. Original Ford Site Q&A sentence that was deleted — ā€œAll reservations will be completed before production of stock units begins.ā€ Paragon of reliability there, I’m completely reassured. Now I...
  9. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    You’re almost assuredly fine with your dealer being in on day 1.
  10. When will Ford shut down reservations?

    Paragon of reliability there, I’m completely reassured. Now I understand why they removed the statement from the Q&A on Ford’s site - it is better communicated through Twitter. Mike says — ā€œEverything’s better with Twitter!ā€ Note also the statement has changed. It now specifies 2021 model...
  11. When will Ford shut down reservations?

    Iā€˜m here to apologize @Straight 6. I really thought you were out-to-lunch for your views on Ford standing by their word. The word I actually thought at the time was idiot. We clearly don’t know if they will produce for dealer stock ahead of reservations but they did remove that statement from...
  12. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Well at this point, I think it’s fine if we digress to Christmas. There has been little discussion that actually address the original points. It’s mostly (1) this shouldnā€˜t be a separate thread (2) it’s production efficiency, stupid! (3) it’s shipping efficiency, stupid! (4) Nothing has...
  13. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Youā€˜re not right above but you’re getting kinda close. However, it is not what Ford said for the first 4 months. You think Ford should let us know they changed their minds? Or should everyone just already ā€œknowā€ that is the way it must be (although even Ford didn’t know that 4 months ago)?
  14. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    All interesting observations that have absolutely zero to do with the point of this thread and original post. I’ve added some bullet points at the top of the original post, it may be helpful for you to review those.
  15. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Youā€˜re right! I have a day one reservation, I can get my Bronco from any dealer I choose and not be impacted by their changes. Given Ford’s terrible ethics, I may elect to not do that. Ford will sell all they make so they will be just fine also! But I thank you for your concern!
  16. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    I don’t know the Danerow deal but that (dealers taking outsize share through aggressive pricing) is exactly why the new method was put in place. Those dealers will not get enough product.
  17. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    This has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. What you say was true under the original allocation methodology and remains true under the new. @ZackDanger interesting that you think this posts adds to the discussion (with your like), when it’s clear from your later contributions to...
  18. Ford Changes How Broncos are Allocated - But Doesn’t Want You to Know

    Its exactly what was going to happen under Ford’s original rules. Big dealers didn’t like it. So Ford changed the rules. You may have expected that - kudos to you for knowing in advance that Ford doesn’t keep their word. But Ford told all end consumers how production woud be allocated...


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