Whaaaat! This hurts. A little.

[VirginiaHeritage]

Can confirm. It's even better when the rear seats are down and covered

You may as well have your passenger in a gimp suit if he’s gonna ride back there.

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[The Green Flash]

One of them just left

Is the other one your right(?)

 

[not on the rug]

Is the other one your right(?)

Haters gonna hate...

 

[skyhunter]

Resist the evil one.

 

[HalfmuleFarmer]

Hard to be bitter when I'm riding around with my hot wife and one of our hot girlfriends half our age.

Pics or it didn’t happen.

 

[Bronks9]

I don’t hate people

 

[not on the rug]

Pics or it didn’t happen.

I can't post face pics of people on the internet for obvious reasons, especially as my wife and I and 2 of the other ENM ladies are discreet about that aspect of our lives. I guess I could blur out faces on the pics, but I'd want to get clearance from any/all of them first.
What's your favorite flavor? Blonde, brunette or Brazilian since that's my current selection. Wife is brunette too.

 

[HalfmuleFarmer]

I can't post face pics of people on the internet for obvious reasons, especially as my wife and I and 2 of the other ENM ladies are discreet about that aspect of our lives. I guess I could blur out faces on the pics, but I'd want to get clearance from any/all of them first.
What's your favorite flavor? Blonde, brunette or Brazilian since that's my current selection. Wife is brunette too.

I’m non-discriminatory and equal opportunity. ;-)

 

[not on the rug]

I’m non-discriminatory and equal opportunity. ;-)

Amen to that!

 

[5GENIDN]

I can't post face pics of people on the internet for obvious reasons, especially as my wife and I and 2 of the other ENM ladies are discreet about that aspect of our lives. I guess I could blur out faces on the pics, but I'd want to get clearance from any/all of them first.
What's your favorite flavor? Blonde, brunette or Brazilian since that's my current selection. Wife is brunette too.

I have tried to stay out of this pretending that I do not find it rather inappropriate to be discussing in this forum.... BUT

"as my wife and I and 2 of the other ENM ladies are discreet about that aspect of our lives."

Explain to me what part of constantly pointing out your lifestyle choice on a forum about vehicles is discrete?

How I read this is that you are lying to yourself. You parade it around as if you think everyone else should be jealous... I am going to be honest with you... I truly do not. I think it screams insecurity. I am convinced you will not understand that... I find that sad. That is your issue not mine and it is not my place to tell you how to live.

BUT do not pretend you are being discrete... You are doing anything but...

 

[HalfmuleFarmer]

I have tried to stay out of this pretending that I do not find it rather inappropriate to be discussing in this forum.... BUT

"as my wife and I and 2 of the other ENM ladies are discreet about that aspect of our lives."

Explain to me what part of constantly pointing out your lifestyle choice on a forum about vehicles is discrete?

How I read this is that you are lying to yourself. You parade it around as if you think everyone else should be jealous... I am going to be honest with you... I truly do not. I think it screams insecurity. I am convinced you will not understand that... I find that sad. That is your issue not mine and it is not my place to tell you how to live.

BUT do not pretend you are being discrete... You are doing anything but...

It’s just joking around. BUT — he IS posting the most compelling argument for a 4DR that I’ve heard yet!

 

[not on the rug]

I have tried to stay out of this pretending that I do not find it rather inappropriate to be discussing in this forum.... BUT

"as my wife and I and 2 of the other ENM ladies are discreet about that aspect of our lives."

Explain to me what part of constantly pointing out your lifestyle choice on a forum about vehicles is discrete?

How I read this is that you are lying to yourself. You parade it around as if you think everyone else should be jealous... I am going to be honest with you... I truly do not. I think it screams insecurity. I am convinced you will not understand that... I find that sad. That is your issue not mine and it is not my place to tell you how to live.

BUT do not pretend you are being discrete... You are doing anything but...

Hot take. Your need to broadcast your feelings is the weird part of all if this, not my lifestyle. Your judgement of me is a reflection of yourself. Oftentimes out own judgement of others is just a reflection of one's own insecurities.

I've never posted a picture of myself or anyone in my life. Hence discreet. In my community (and theirs) there is no knowledge being passed around. I'm not in my local coffee shop with anyone but my family. Yes. Discrete. Talking about it with a bunch of strangers on the internet I'll never meet doesn't change anything at all.

I actually don't really care what anyone thinks. My intention in this life is to live it to the fullest. When I was a teenager I had a sign on my door that said "Grab life by the Beans" and that's what I do. I work hard and play hard. I have a long and storied career in QA and Compliance. I also own 2 successful businesses. I coach youth sports. I travel. I love cars and trucks. I play multiple instruments. I train MMA. I wake up every day with a burning desire to live. I think that even if I had 200 years on this earth, I'd still never be able to accomplish half of what I want to accomplish. This journey is a gift brother. Do some introspection and figure out why some stranger on the internet kicking life's ass is bothering you so much.

So what if I want to play with grown, consenting women? Why does that matter to you and cause such a visceral reaction? What is that saying about you? Your moral judgement and idea that you're somehow more capable or intelligent than me ("you wouldn't understand") is actually what is screaming insecurity.

I don't live my life for you or anyone else but myself and my family. I'm not insecure. I'm comfortable and confident and happy to the core. It took me a long time to get this way because the haters are EVERYWHERE and sometimes the weight of that can be massive on a young man's shoulders. Don't let it turn you into one of "them"

 

[5GENIDN]

It’s just joking around. BUT — he IS posting the most compelling argument for a 4DR that I’ve heard yet!

Personally I do not find it compelling or admirable. I can not pretend otherwise. My belief is not rooted in Victorian bullshit, nor biblical, It has to do with a lifetime of learned behavioral consequences and how choices actually effect your relationships, and those around you.... For that reason I am going to call out your comment as well for not just condoning but actually admiring a lifestyle choice that I believe is detrimental to all involved. I think it is a very poor choice and yet you celebrate it because that is what we as males have been trained to do....

I am no expert on human behavior and it's ramifications, but I can recognize it and often its roots then rely on my anecdotal experiences to form opinions. And while I think I have made clear my opinion here I do not suggest anyone else should live like my opinion matters, because it really should not... What I am doing and WILL do is call out what is actually transpiring. Those are facts not opinion.

Sorry for getting too serious on subjects that really are best discussed elsewhere.

 

[not on the rug]

Personally I do not find it compelling or admirable. I can not pretend otherwise. My belief is not rooted in Victorian bullshit, nor biblical, It has to do with a lifetime of learned behavioral consequences and how choices actually effect your relationships, and those around you.... For that reason I am going to call out your comment as well for not just condoning but actually admiring a lifestyle choice that I believe is detrimental to all involved. I think it is a very poor choice and yet you celebrate it because that is what we as males have been trained to do....

I am no expert on human behavior and it's ramifications, but I can recognize it and often its roots then rely on my anecdotal experiences to form opinions. And while I think I have made clear my opinion here I do not suggest anyone else should live like my opinion matters, because it really should not... What I am doing and WILL do is call out what is actually transpiring. Those are facts not opinion.

Sorry for getting too serious on subjects that really are best discussed elsewhere.

Interesting take.

If your beliefs aren't rooted in religion or victorian principals, what are they rooted in?

What causes one to believe that consenting adults doing consenting things is somehow wrong or bad? What compels you to pass judgement on others?

What do you think my lifestyle looks like?

Genuine curiosity here

 

[HalfmuleFarmer]

Personally I do not find it compelling or admirable. I can not pretend otherwise. My belief is not rooted in Victorian bullshit, nor biblical, It has to do with a lifetime of learned behavioral consequences and how choices actually effect your relationships, and those around you.... For that reason I am going to call out your comment as well for not just condoning but actually admiring a lifestyle choice that I believe is detrimental to all involved. I think it is a very poor choice and yet you celebrate it because that is what we as males have been trained to do....

I am no expert on human behavior and it's ramifications, but I can recognize it and often its roots then rely on my anecdotal experiences to form opinions. And while I think I have made clear my opinion here I do not suggest anyone else should live like my opinion matters, because it really should not... What I am doing and WILL do is call out what is actually transpiring. Those are facts not opinion.

Sorry for getting too serious on subjects that really are best discussed elsewhere.

As a wise man once said, “There’s a lot of ways to live, brother.”

Things that work for some people don’t work for others. Some people are looking for X in a relationship, some people are looking for Y. As a preponderance of world-wide evidence proves, no arrangement is, in and of itself, better or more ‘detrimental’ than any other. Do what suits you. Care about people. It’s all possible. And PS: as we learn on the trails, it’s hard to really judge something until you’ve tried it firsthand.

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