Car Care Nut (mechanic) review of 6G Bronco

[DALOLA]

Sponsored

 

[Ducati1098]

My issue is that it's a belt. It's still a maintenance item with far less expected lifespan and in theory it should be replaced at whatever interval it's supposed to be replaced. I would argue a chain is also a wear item, but again... far greater expected lifespan. It will drive me nuts to go 200000 miles on a belt that's supposed to be changed at 100000 even if every single one out there has lasted 300000.

Ford doesn't list an expected lifespan or interval on the belt.
But to each their own I'll continue not to worry about something that has never shown any issues.

 

[bobogto]

Ford doesn't list an expected lifespan or interval on the belt.
But to each their own I'll continue not to worry about something that has never shown any issues.

A lot of manufacturers list transmission fluid as "lifetime"...
I got the 2.3, so I'm not too worried about it either. Just having a conversation.

 

[Ducati1098]

A lot of manufacturers list transmission fluid as "lifetime"...
I got the 2.3, so I'm not too worried about it either. Just having a conversation.

Understandable. I’ve rebuilt a lot of transmissions in my life, not a single one was caused by old fluid.
Similar to the oil pump belt, it will likely outlast many other failures

 

[Desmolicious]

Belts? Chains? My old Honda VFR750R had gear driven cams and it sounded awesome!

That pic of the motor at 250K miles? All I am saying is the pentastar v6 in my dearly departed Wrangler Rubicon wished it could have gone 250k miles - it failed at 100K.

 

[EvilJim1971]

Belts? Chains? My old Honda VFR750R had gear driven cams and it sounded awesome!

That pic of the motor at 250K miles? All I am saying is the pentastar v6 in my dearly departed Wrangler Rubicon wished it could have gone 250k miles - it failed at 100K.

My 318k mile 96 F-150 300 6 is gear drive also.

 

[bobogto]

Understandable. I’ve rebuilt a lot of transmissions in my life, not a single one was caused by old fluid.
Similar to the oil pump belt, it will likely outlast many other failures

I doubt I have your experience, but I will still argue.
Bad fluid could cause long term damage and deterioration. I've never actually worked on transmissions, but I've seen couple that failure could very well be attributed to bad oil. I guess my point is... Just because we can, and some cars will tolerate it, doesn't mean we should.
Same on the belts. It might be just the interwebs... but I swear I have never heard of a oil pump chain wearing out to the point of failure. However, I've heard of many belts that have snapped without any other contributing factors. Granted not on the 2.7 V6, but still.
I realize it might just be in my head, but... I just cannot seem to be able to justify the risk for NVH reasons. But it's plausible. If a market research shows that they are more likely to sell more cars...
I would much more believe cost. I know every cent matters with these, so I can image even if it's 1 cent cheaper per unit. So, both a viable reason.

 

[nc-hiker]

Some of what he says in his videos is correct, some is not.
He complains about the interior plastics, but has no problem with them in the new 4Runner. I was about to buy a 6Gen 4runner before I bought my Bronco. The plastics in the 6Gen 4Runner are garbage, and the fit is terrible.
But he had no problem with them in the 4Runner.

I totally agree. The 4Runner has some awful looking plastics. I test drove a 4Runner Sport Premium and I was surprised how cheap it felt. The ride was also stiff and not to my liking. The Sport Premium has a stiffer suspension and 20" wheels. I have no doubt that the Off-Road trim is a better choice.

 

[nc-hiker]

No 2 door has power seats, for obvious reason. Doesn’t make sense to have to wait for a power seat to slide forward for someone to get in the back.

I used to be a real snob about power seats but now I don't care at all. And you're right -- they are slow.

 

[nc-hiker]

The interior of my ‘23 Bronco isn’t even in the same ballpark as my wife’s ‘23 4Runner. For that matter, neither is my mom’s Lincoln.

I’ve heard the 6th gen (2025+) 4Runner interiors feel cheaper. But our 5th gen feels very solid, durable, and well designed. The Bronco interior is trash. I’m not talking about leather seats vs fabric. I’m talking about the plastic bits that don’t change as you move up the trim levels. I’m talking about the stuff in my base trim that I know is the same as an $85K Raptor. Man, I’d be pissed or feel like a sucker for paying that kind of dough for this crap. Fits together like a Tamiya plastic model. Almost.

The key thing is, don't move up the trim levels

 

[dougcjohn]

Great YouTube by Speed Lake “Oil Geek” on Valvoline Clean & Protect. It’s on a EcoBoost 4 cylinder with 500k miles.
At about the 6:20 time, he discusses Ford’s Wet Belt and onward into video.

 

[Original Bender]

Some of what he says in his videos is correct, some is not.
He complains about the interior plastics, but has no problem with them in the new 4Runner. I was about to buy a 6Gen 4runner before I bought my Bronco. The plastics in the 6Gen 4Runner are garbage, and the fit is terrible.
But he had no problem with them in the 4Runner.

The way Toyota lays out and places switches in their vehicles is like they hired an autistic Weboo kid from 2008 and let him raid the mixed switch bin and put the LCD screen on the dash with gorilla tape like it was an afterthought or they straight up forgot

 

[8rent]

“There is no other way to say it”. Drove me crazy. I can think of a few.

Sponsored