Anyone looking at doing a Bugout build?

[DeltaBravo]

Let’s have some fun . . . what, exactly, is the difference between a typical Bugout vehicle and a typical Overland vehicle? Asking for a friend. He’s such a damn troll (has his own bridge, and everything.

Me? I suspect I’m boiling the water out of my swimming pool till the usable fuel for fire is gone. At some point before that the situation will likely have repaired itself, or not . . . In the mean time, I’m not hungry or without shelter. The only real problem is my field of fire sucks from where I’m at.

well anyone with an overland bound badge is a tool for starters....

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[NVCowboy]

well anyone with an overland bound badge is a tool for starters....

So it comes down to stickers? “Overland Bound” vs “Zombie Hunter.” That was too damn easy, but I’m glad we were able to figure that out.

 

[DeltaBravo]

So it comes down to stickers? “Overland Bound” vs “Zombie Hunter.” That was too damn easy, but I’m glad we were able to figure that out.

jokes aside I’m looking at a BOV as something capable like a 4x4 that is pre-staged with equipment and resources that stay with the vehicle like a load out to sustain the occupants for a short period of time.

I have a 12 hour kit, 24 hour bag, and 72 hour bag prepped for my job. The vehicle would have some of the same stuff and other items to fill in the gaps created with my other kits.

18 years in the army and specializing in hazard/environmental response, preparedness is sort of a part of my lifestyle.

Some basic essentials, extra clothes, food, first aid, some minor repair stuff etc.

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Over landing seems to be the trendy thing with people who overload their vehicles with everything including the kitchen sink. Yeah a camp kitchen and portable toilet is great but you’re probably keeping all that essentially loaded when going out and probably putting some of that gear in storage until you use it again.

sure there’s some overlap and I can’t wait for all the “I’m an overlander and I keep my ‘rig’ fully loaded 24/7 because reasons”

TLDR: bugout capable vehicle loaded with the essentials vs over landing which is just car camping re-branded.

just my two cents and my opinion since someone asked me directly.

 

[grimmjeeper]

If I was building a bugout vehicle it would be an old RAM 2500 with a 12v Cummins. A fully mechanical diesel will still run after an EMP. The only long term problem is fuel. So it would be a means to get somewhere.

But where would I go? I don't have anything set up anywhere. And one truck load won't be enough.

And why would I go anywhere? Why is any one place better to go than where I am now?

Then there's the rabbit hole of what on earth would actually happen in real life to make me want to bug out? I know a lot of people want to believe things they see in crazy YouTube videos but I don't buy it. Worst that will actually happen is a natural disaster and those are temporary things, not to mention usually somewhat localized.

So I keep several weeks worth of supplies and plan on riding out whatever happens.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

jokes aside I’m looking at a BOV as something capable like a 4x4 that is pre-staged with equipment and resources that stay with the vehicle like a load out to sustain the occupants for a short period of time.

I have a 12 hour kit, 24 hour bag, and 72 hour bag prepped for my job. The vehicle would have some of the same stuff and other items to fill in the gaps created with my other kits.

18 years in the army and specializing in hazard/environmental response, preparedness is sort of a part of my lifestyle.

Some basic essentials, extra clothes, food, first aid, some minor repair stuff etc.

————-

Over landing seems to be the trendy thing with people who overload their vehicles with everything including the kitchen sink. Yeah a camp kitchen and portable toilet is great but you’re probably keeping all that essentially loaded when going out and probably putting some of that gear in storage until you use it again.

sure there’s some overlap and I can’t wait for all the “I’m an overlander and I keep my ‘rig’ fully loaded 24/7 because reasons”

TLDR: bugout capable vehicle loaded with the essentials vs over landing which is just car camping re-branded.

just my two cents and my opinion since someone asked me directly.

Yea, in a bad situation you want to remain as flexible with your mobility as possible. First aid, tools, basic food, dry clothing, meaning no cotton including your underwear and socks. I have a pack with merino wool, almost everything. Baselayer, socks, underwear (think for skiing) or at least tights made out of the workout material, but merino fights stink and bacteria whereas that workout shit is a petri dish of bacteria.

First aid kit is probably the best investment anyone can make for bug out or overlanding.

Overalanding is packed and heavy as you've said. that'll eat fuel and draw attention, meaning those who need resources will aim at you and will win. Then, what happens when these guys run out of the little propane tanks?

Hopefully most of the guys here talking bug out at least have a Leatherman or some other multitool, a rechargeable tactical flashlight, and a first aid kit.

 

[Magoo]

No way I’m buying a vehicle where the heated steering wheel won’t work after an EMP! Dang it, Ford messing up again!

Next we’ll find out that the Sasquatch package tires aren’t a viable food source.
I’m OUT! Gonna get that ‘03 Aztec with the rear tent.

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

Sorry, thought you said Bugatti ...

 

[tracythemighty]

Serious question.
Would any modern vehicle work after an emp?

https://techprotectbag.com/emp-effects-on-cars-would-yours-survive/

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

https://techprotectbag.com/emp-effects-on-cars-would-yours-survive/

So, what movies have all the guys here been watching that makes them so afraid of an EMP?

Were EMPs a weapon in this year's Call of Duty game?

Not even sure that an EMP has EVER been used in combat and we've been at war for 20 years now. I guess the military has that capability, but using it would potentially even cause problems for the aggressor and may not even work as intended.

If so many guys wanted to play soldier, why not become one?

An EMP isn't necessarily a threat to you, but a blackout due to a storm or heatwave, etc ARE a threat to you, so plan for the things most likely to happen, not those that are remote and something you read on Instagoogletweetface or saw in a B grade movie at 2:00AM on SyFy.

 

[tracythemighty]

So, what moves have all the guys here been watching that makes them so afraid of an EMP?

Were EMPs a weapon in this year's Call of Duty game?

Not even sure that an EMP has EVER been used in combat and we've been at war for 20 years now. I guess the military has that capability, but using it would potentially even cause problems for the aggressor and may not even work as intended.

If so many guys wanted to play soldier, why not become one?

An EMP isn't necessarily a threat to you, but a blackout due to a storm or heatwave, etc ARE a threat to you, so plan for the things most likely to happen, not those that are remote and something you read on Instagoogletweetface or saw in a B grade movie at 2:00AM on SyFy.

I think it's just one of many things people think could happen. Believe me, it's not the craziest thing I've heard.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

I think it's just one of many things people think could happen. Believe me, it's not the craziest thing I've heard.

It's not the craziest, but it also isn't likely.

Like I pointed out a week ago, Texans can't even take 6 inches of snow without things looking like Mad Max.

No water purification, no cold weather gear, no generators or ways to stay warm; these are basic and survival 101. Gasoline will also not be a thing after the first month.

Seems to me that not only folks in Texas, but everyone needs to think more about what WILL happen instead of constantly dreaming about what COULD happen.

Tarnados, hurricanes, wild fires, floods, blizzards do and will happen and if unprepared will look very distopian after just 72 hours if clean water stops flowing; so plan for that.

Why do I care about the preparation of others? Easy, because when SHTF, the more prepped you are, the less likely you are to need to target me, which will make me target you; then we both lose.

If every family (not just the men), know how to survive for at least 4 days on the other side of anything, there will be far fewer tragedies when things do go bad.

Natural disaster will get you far quicker than a government collapse which is far from being possible no matter what conspiracies it seems many of the guys here have dug themselves into.

 

[broadicustomworks]

Lots of good, valid points on here, and a lot of common-sense good old fashioned wisdom.
I am surprised and happy to see several people looking at it more realistically vs. COD gaming.
As campy as it sounds, a lot can be learned about how it might actually turn out if some long-term life changing, society-ending event happened by watching Walking Dead.
Once you take out the unlimited ammo for several seasons, perfectly functioning batteries, and endless supply of non-degraded fuel, it boiled down to essentials.
Water
Shelter
Food
Protection/defense
I was glad to see in the latter few seasons it became more realistic (As much as a Zombie apocalypse show can).
They ran out of fuel, they had to reload ammo (although I am curious about the raw materials being readily available), and have since gone back to spears and hacking weapons.
All that said, it is good practice to be prepared, as others have said, with essentials and have a "bug out" supply ready or accessible in short order.
But as far as bugging out, it is a different scenario whether you are in a besieged urban setting or living in the country.
Bugging in if your setup is more conducive, is probably a better situation than leaving your shelter and known area for something else.
Unless your off-grid route to said area is known by all members of the family, accessible, and makes more tactical sense than your primary.
I was all-in on the bug-out line of thought for a while but once I really got to considering, it makes more sense to shelter in place and deal with the things you know.
Country setting, fair amount of wild game (until it is exhausted), access to water, larger than average amount of good neighbors with varying specialties/resources that hopefully can band together and keep all in good shape vs. hermiting.
It's a scary situation and growing up my elders took no pause in preparing for a RED DAWN situation. I learned a lot of what makes sense and what doesn't seeing this.
We can't all voyage to 100 acres in Montana, so best to prepare to hunker down where you are and with what you know until it makes sense not to.
In all actuality it is the shorter-lived emergencies that I hope we have to deal with vs. a complete breakdown of society and open defense of our homes.
I see the 6G as a capable vehicle that CAN get me to other locales if needed where most others can't travel. Within certain boundaries.
If I was looking for a true simple off-road beast to plow through whatever and not have a bunch of electronic crap to fail, I'd get an old basic mechanical everything 4WD or a true mil-spec H1.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
*backing out of the thread before I end up on a list

 

[csj]

Supposedly EMP like effects can happen naturally, from a "coronal mass ejection" from the sun. Evidently something like this happened in 1859, called the "Carrington Event", and knocked out the telegraph at the time.
Personally I don't think a major, country-wide or world-wide "without rule of law" (wrol) type situation would ever happen, but if it did, I think almost everyone would be better off "bugging in", instead of getting on the road.
In a true wrol situation, any newer or more prepared looking vehicle would be a bullet magnet. You'd be much better off using the oldest, junkiest looking running vehicle you have, plus dress like a bunch of homeless folks.

 

[RBF 1401]

It's not the craziest, but it also isn't likely.

Like I pointed out a week ago, Texans can't even take 6 inches of snow without things looking like Mad Max.

No water purification, no cold weather gear, no generators or ways to stay warm; these are basic and survival 101. Gasoline will also not be a thing after the first month.

Seems to me that not only folks in Texas, but everyone needs to think more about what WILL happen instead of constantly dreaming about what COULD happen.

Tarnados, hurricanes, wild fires, floods, blizzards do and will happen and if unprepared will look very distopian after just 72 hours if clean water stops flowing; so plan for that.

Why do I care about the preparation of others? Easy, because when SHTF, the more prepped you are, the less likely you are to need to target me, which will make me target you; then we both lose.

If every family (not just the men), know how to survive for at least 4 days on the other side of anything, there will be far fewer tragedies when things do go bad.

Natural disaster will get you far quicker than a government collapse which is far from being possible no matter what conspiracies it seems many of the guys here have dug themselves into.

To me "bugout" is when I'm in a bad mood and go disappear in the mountains or the desert for a week. And since I like to do this the moment the idea hits me, I have a small stockpile of gear and supplies I can throw into me vehicle.

Edit: sorry, got sidetracked...

Lots of little emergencies have cropped up where colleagues of mine have had problems worse than they should have when there were floods, fire evacuations, and power outages because they didn't have a mini stockpile of crap like I do.

You really never know when your neighborhood will have a gas or water main break or suffer a natural disaster. Having some water and basic supplies on hand is just a good idea.

 

[kje22kje]

So I keep several weeks worth of supplies and plan on riding out whatever happens.

Yep. Have supplies to shelter in place as long as you can. Hope you're close enough with your immediate community to have a network will better improve your situation.

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