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The time is coming where I think I should replace the brake pads on the '21 Badlands. I started the process by searching around and didn't really find a whole lot of info about what pads came on the Bronco from the factory so here is a thread on that subject. I've seen a few posts about avoiding Hawk pads as they don't have clips. And a few about Powerstops which apparently don't really do much better than the stock pads. I actually can't complain about the stock units as they've held up for over 66K miles and that's pretty good. They brake well enough for a vehicle that 5K pounds and has 35's. far better than my Cummins Ram 2500 did but that's a whole different story.

The internet isn't really giving up a lot of details on the factory bits but I think, read hope, that I found what I'm after. I went to oemfordpartsdirect after being led by the search engine. It appears the front pads are KB3Z-2001a listed as Fords number for the Motorcraft BRF-1874. And on the rears I believe it is, BRF-2061. Why I'm not certain of that part number is a story in itself.
While trying to find the parts you will need to use their part configurator to search. Which is fine, except it isn't very straightforward. The VIN search yielded a no parts found error. So I follow the drop down menu and fill in the year model trim etc..
It populates the key groupings such as disc pads and rotors but this actually is only the rear brakes. The fronts are located on the front brakes which is a few items lower on the list, but kind of not obvious. Apparently they are part of a different group? Either way the parts are added to the cart, there are no alternative options as only one pad works on these Broncos regardless of trim. I place the order and ....
a day later get an email saying they need the VIN for the order or it will be cancelled? So I call them. Why a VIN? There are no other options. This is the part they directed me to so what's the issue? Whatever I'll ask. The parts guy is pretty curt with me an says they can't send the part cause they would be held accountable for any accident if the part was the wrong item for the vehicle. He states it's a safety regulation! I'll let you all think on that but I call BS. We go back and forth a bit on that and he finally says he just needs the last 8. Okay whatever I give it to him. He then says see you ordered the wrong part for the rears! So I regurgitate the process I took to find them and he says I don't know what happened but now it's right on the order. Fair enough. What is the new part number? He doesn't give me an answer. So I have to send a reply to the email listing the VIN again and I ask for the new part number so I can keep the paperwork in line for the future. And to pass along what I've learned. The following day, day three now, I get a reply that doesn't say anything about the wrong part number rather it says the following:

THE BRAKE PADS ON YOUR ORDER ARE A VIN SPECIFIC MATCH TO THE VIN PROVIDED.



THANK YOU

In common speak this is Ford Monitoring who is working on their own vehicle. For those of you unaware, they are heavy in the process of lobbying Congress to remove the right to repair your vehicles. Look it up and enjoy that rabbit hole. It's but one of many efforts of the manufacturers colluding with the government to try and control your rights and abilities as private citizens.

Sorry for the Political rant but it is what it is.

Again I call this all BS and it's quite irritating to have my right to repair tracked by the manufacturer.

I'll update with the parts I receive just to confirm they are fit for purpose.
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@Valhalla, aren't you using PowerStop brake pads? Those are aftermarket, right?

I dunno, maybe a visit to a parts store like Autozone or Oreilly's might give you non-Ford related info you want.
 
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I visited both stores in the search. I kind of wanted to just keep the stock pads because they're a known good option I think. Never much cared for alternate pads on other vehicles I've worked on.

Regarding the Fast Eddie question,

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If you want to repair your own vehicle you must provide the VIN to be allowed the opportunity to purchase the parts required for that vehicle.

Read into it what you will and in five years let's chat about the current state of the Right to Repair Act.
 

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I visited both stores in the search. I kind of wanted to just keep the stock pads because they're a known good option I think. Never much cared for alternate pads on other vehicles I've worked on.

Regarding the Fast Eddie question,

Short version
If you want to repair your own vehicle you must provide the VIN to be allowed the opportunity to purchase the parts required for that vehicle.

Read into it what you will and in five years let's chat about the current state of the Right to Repair Act.
...no VIN required if you go to autozone and buy the parts there lol. What in the conspiracy is happening here?
 

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In common speak this is Ford Monitoring who is working on their own vehicle
You do realize that "oemfordpartsdirect" is not Ford, correct..?

Had you just used Ford's actual parts website, none of this would've been required.
 
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You do realize that "oemfordpartsdirect" is not Ford, correct..?

Had you just used Ford's actual parts website, none of this would've been required.
Have a look on Fords website and then send that link for the brake parts. It doesn't exist I went there first. they don't list those parts at all.
 
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...no VIN required if you go to autozone and buy the parts there lol. What in the conspiracy is happening here?
You can't buy motorcraft pads for a Bronco at Autozone. I tried

Believe me I'm not just throwing out a conspiracy theory. I actually did the research and this is where I landed. It's not possible to buy Ford OEM parts, at least not the brake pads without going through the hoop.
 

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@Valhalla, aren't you using PowerStop brake pads? Those are aftermarket, right?

I dunno, maybe a visit to a parts store like Autozone or Oreilly's might give you non-Ford related info you want.
Yes, I am very happy with my powerstop pads. The stock ford return springs failed and ate my rear pads.
 
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Oh that's what I was trying to get to. Every time I added my vehicle it came upon with only 27 items available for the brakes and didn't include any brake pads. looks like it sends you to a ford dealership which is actually where I ended just a different dealer. I bet they'll still require the VIN though once I place the order.
 

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Oh that's what I was trying to get to. Every time I added my vehicle it came upon with only 27 items available for the brakes and didn't include any brake pads.
The search function on these ford-related parts sites (I think they're all using a similar if not same web package) can be a pretty bad experience. Ford isn't spying on you, though. They're just trying to get you the right set of pads based on vin. It's even funny to think how haphazard their parts system is, they're probably not even close to being able to do anything effective anyhow.
 
 





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