Well, I think the issue is that, in the past, no one really expected Ford quality to equal Lexus. But you accepted that because buying a Ford was a lot cheaper than buying a Lexus. That isn't the case anymore. Order a loaded up Badlands and you're into Lexus GX550 territory. And the quality differences are off the charts.
Exactly... My Bronco, my GT350, and my Porsche all were in the mid 60's.
I'll pile on with yet another disagreement to this post. Had two Tiguans over a 15 year span, 2010 and 2017, and they were among the best vehicles we've owned from new. Neither was ever in the shop once outside normal maintenance, and build quality of both was excellent.
You never mentioned that in our conversation. That would certainly leak and I would be interested in seeing pictures of that.
EXACTLY why I bought one!
I've had four Fords in a row. The only warranty work needed on ANY of them, was on the Bronco(Tech came to my house and reflashed the wiper motor and was done in less than ten minutes).
No argument from me on your 2023 GTI experience. They lost me with this current MK8 version. VW is heading back those dark days of the late 90’s unfortunately in many regards, and became clear to me that they’re trying to push buyer into the more expensive cousins at Audi. But in all honesty, I think a lot of the German brands are in a quality control funk right now. Certainly none of them compare to the 20teens versions. I’m guessing too much invested in battery infrastructure at the expense of core aspects of the ICE versions. Our 2020 GLS, while has been pretty good to us, has seen some pretty horrible quality issues. Seats that ripped apart, door controls that fell into the door panel multiple times, factory debris in the hvac blower motor, squeaks and rattles (the headliner is basically held up by the plastic pieces of the pillars all around, that sort of stuff.
Awesome! I agree that the new cars of today are...meh....most of them anyway- especially the SUV's- you said they all look the same is so true. At least the Bronco looks so different. I turn my head every time I see one. I loved VW's back the day. I loved my 83 GTI- one of my favorite cars of all time. But 90 HP was a lot back then. And trucks with 150-170 HP was a lot. Today that is nothing you are holding up traffic LOL. But they were simplistic and easy to work on. I'm scared of the Bronco- accessing the spark plugs on the 2.7- looks like a multiple day job. I love my 87 Chevy Squarebody truck- it's good driver and I take it to car shows. It's so darn easy to work on- everything is nuts and bolts. And ya the trucks are so big today one won't fit in my garage either. The Bronco fits great and my wife has a 2013 Silverado short bed regular cab pick up that fits. I really need a 4 door truck that will tow but it's very, very hard to part with the Bronco and I don't know if I can......ever.
I’m saving for one of these. I got about $150K still to go!
There's a semi sticky pad of material you can see that isn't stuck up there anymore in the photo. I have since put some pressure on it to try to "re-seal" it, but it doesn't seem like it will stay long term with heat and moisture. I'm not sure if that material is on all the tops or if ford put it there because they knew about that gap. Surprisingly no water has come in yet.
