First new Ford...Probably the last Ford

[Johnkn]

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[indio22]

The current administration's trade advisor Pete Navarro said earlier today Ford is not really an American company. So apparently with our Broncos we are all now foreign car owners.

 

[Toccoa]

This.
Maybe this is what I was thinking all along. It's certainly true more often than not.

It's been my experience as well. The fact that my 20+ year old Isuzu has better build quality and is more pleasant to operate than my Bronco is a constant annoyance. I think of the Ford Bronco as an old British roadster. Pleasant to drive and look at. Annoying to operate and own.

 

[Toccoa]

The current administration's trade advisor Pete Navarro said earlier today Ford is not really an American company. So apparently with our Broncos we are all now foreign car owners.

 

[Sunday Money]

I can post a picture when I install the canvas liner. It's just for the trunk area made by canvasback. wanted something I could remove and clean because of muddy dogs and avoid gouges in the side plastic when transporting gear. I might hate it but, wanted to try something prior before letting it get banged up.

Cool, Canvasback is great! You threw me off with "custom made" (custom meaning you had to select a color/pattern). In the mean time, can you post photos of your other two big issues:

1. custom made canvas liners
2. bolts that look like they were installed with the wrong socket or sloppy use of the socket
3. random little paint chips I spot all over

 

[Valhalla]

You had a Volkswagen but are complaining about the build quality of your Bronco? Not to say the Broncos are perfect but unless you traded them in while still under warranty VWs are notoriously not great vehicles.

Aww c'mon guy.... through Chattanooga a bone!!!

 

[rgraphic]

Troll

Cool, Canvasback is great! You threw me off with "custom made" (custom meaning you had to select a color or swatch). In the mean time, can you post photos of your other two big issues:

1. custom made canvas liners
2. bolts that look like they were installed with the wrong socket or sloppy use of the socket
3. random little paint chips I spot all over

You can get custom colors/patterns! haha (Not that the ones they offer look good). I got black. But they are made to order. even has a vented cut out for the sub.

Will do. I touched up many of the small paint chips (and they were pretty small) so you can barely see them anymore. But they were just odd so I thought I would note. I'll see if there's any I didn't touch up yet and try to get a light on the bolts behind the spare mount and post. Those are the ones that look like they were installed using the wrong tool.

 

[Valhalla]

Another totally disagree comment, 3 VWs back to back, 1 TDI that I sold back and 2 GTIs and then the Bronco. Quality was amazing on all of them and no issues with any outside of the whole Dieselgate thing (but amazing mpg).

aww not dieselgate again...

 

[11811]

Considering how many of these Ford was pushing down the assembly line in the second half of 2024 I'm pretty satisfied with what I got. I look at my Bronco and think of the people on the assembly line bolting and snapping all these parts together day after day and am surprised that more mistakes aren't made. Especially considering how complicated cars are today. Sure wouldn't want to do that job for 30+ years. We quickly forget about the really poor quality cars the big 3 used to make years ago. Ones that you were thrilled with if you could zero the odometer at 100,000 miles or keep more than 5 years before holes rusted through the quarter panels.

 

[HalfmuleFarmer]

I’ll reserve judgement until I see one in person, but from some of the videos I’ve seen, the new 4Runner uses a lot of hard plastics as well along with the new Land Cruiser. Especially the lower trim levels, and those are two vehicles I strongly considered.

When I was considering the Bronco, I held off in order to see the Land Cruiser at the LA Auto Show. It was starting at $58K, which sounded very reasonable, as the earlier LCs were beasts and nice builds. Seeing the new one made me order the Bronco without hesitation. Interior materials felt much cheaper—in a no man’s land, trying to lux on a budget. At least the Bronc is just going for utilitarian. Sadly, vehicle QC is probably just going down across the board, even in Germany. No one’s building cars to last 20 years anymore. High quality is a bad business model I guess.

 

[rgraphic]

When I was considering the Bronco, I held off in order to see the Land Cruiser at the LA Auto Show. It was starting at $58K, which sounded very reasonable, as the earlier LCs were beasts and nice builds. Seeing the new one made my order the Bronco without hesitation. Interior materials felt much cheaper—in a no man’s land, trying to lux on a budget. At least the Bronc is just going for utilitarian. Sadly, vehicle QC is probably just going down across the board, even in Germany. No one’s building cars to last 20 years anymore. High quality is a bad business model I guess.

You might

When I was considering the Bronco, I held off in order to see the Land Cruiser at the LA Auto Show. It was starting at $58K, which sounded very reasonable, as the earlier LCs were beasts and nice builds. Seeing the new one made me order the Bronco without hesitation. Interior materials felt much cheaper—in a no man’s land, trying to lux on a budget. At least the Bronc is just going for utilitarian. Sadly, vehicle QC is probably just going down across the board, even in Germany. No one’s building cars to last 20 years anymore. High quality is a bad business model I guess.

I think you might be right. Even on a larger scale with just about anything being manufactured now. Im barely 40 and I'm starting to see each year the quality of everything declining rapidly. Planned obsolescence is at its peak it seems. Maybe cars will end up being on the same replacement cycle as cell phones.

 

[Sunday Money]

You can get custom colors/patterns! haha (Not that the ones they offer look good). I got black. But they are made to order. even has a vented cut out for the sub.

Will do. I touched up many of the small paint chips (and they were pretty small) so you can barely see them anymore. But they were just odd so I thought I would note. I'll see if there's any I didn't touch up yet and try to get a light on the bolts behind the spare mount and post. Those are the ones that look like they were installed using the wrong tool.

Awesome! PLEASE post photos of some of the paint chip spots that you corrected that you can barely see anymore.

If you can barely see them, the photos will provide a lot more detail!

 

[voxel]

I’ll reserve judgement until I see one in person, but from some of the videos I’ve seen, the new 4Runner uses a lot of hard plastics as well along with the new Land Cruiser. Especially the lower trim levels, and those are two vehicles I strongly considered.

I test drove the new LC ($70K mid trim with HUD, etc) at an event recently. The interior isn't worth that price. It's somewhere between a plastic Bronco and Nappa-leather Wrangler. I have to say I test drove a $73K loaded Wrangler and that interior + audio + etc was much nicer than the LC. The LC felt like a RAV4 interior-wise. None of the above are as nice as the non-offroad SUVs like the Telluride, Grand Cherokee, etc. that are more for family hauling.

 

[rgraphic]

I test drove the new LC ($70K mid trim with HUD, etc) at an event recently. The interior isn't worth that price. It's somewhere between a plastic Bronco and Nappa-leather Wrangler. I have to say I test drove a $73K loaded Wrangler and that interior + audio + etc was much nicer than the LC. The LC felt like a RAV4 interior-wise. None of the above are as nice as the non-offroad SUVs like the Telluride, Grand Cherokee, etc. that are more for family hauling.

Good to know about the LC. It was the first thing that came to mind when spotting all the imperfections on the bronco and thought maybe I should have waited for that.

 

[B22-2023]

I love driving my Bronco, but when friends ask about it, my first statement is always “Well, it ~is~ a Ford” - and that isn’t a negative or a positive thing, it’s just a fact. And everyone has their own opinion about that.

I remember these bumper stickers being big on Long Island and Upstate back in the ‘80s, almost put one on my ‘77 Gen 1. Maybe time to bring it back as a laugh, OP put it on the VW.

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