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I’m enjoying this thread.
not a lot of hate, differing opinions staying civil and all.
Plus it’s nice to see so many with some humility and common every-day guy experience and sense!
And yes, cooler water hand washing is all I ever knew. Especially on those afternoons frying up the fish you spent the day catching.
Gotta get that worm dirt and fish scales off somehow.
I’d genuinely love to share a campfire with about 90% of y’all on here.
And man, the camper shell talk brought back memories.
Dad had one of those aluminum ones on his old Dodge and made a simple sleeping platform out of 2x4’s on each bedside.
My two younger sisters and I made the trip from TX to NC, back to TX in that thing more than once. In summer with no AC back there.
Those were the days. We just didn’t know it then.
 

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A boomer here

A while back I was out mountain biking and came across a 30 something runner wearing speciality socks, a water belt, some type of vest and of course technical clothes. As a former runner, bad knees now, I kinda chuckled to myself. Not five minutes later I came across another runner, older guy, just shorts and running shoes. That to me represents Overland vs car camping. A lot of stuff for looks but really not needed. I would spend weeks out in the wilds doing mapping and field work and never needed half the stuff found on these trucks.
But sometimes it is needed. I’ve run a lot of miles over the years, and for certain longer training runs I definitely used the fancy water belt. Was it absolutely necessary? No, but was super convenient allowing me to run wherever I wanted and not worry about water. Those fancy new super-cushy Hokas? They might have saved your knees 😀. Running isn’t really much fun anymore for me (was it ever??) now I find those tiny water bottles are perfect for morning back country ski tours.

I think that is crux of this argument for me: if you have it hanging off your truck, and you use it regularly, good on ya. But so many buy things and strap them to their bronco, never to be used (heck, we’re probably all guilty of that to some extent).

For me, I like to get out off the beaten path, and I have a trailrax rack, but don’t ever plan to have an RTT (still not sure the purpose given their weight and cost). But I’ll frequently use a the 40L Iceco fridge. Totally worth the $450 IMO, and I’m never going back to cooler and bags of ice. But the expensive ax and shovel? Not happening.
 

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Approaching 50 myself, if you camp in a treed area a hammock (or bear burrito) is amazing to sleep in. I have a warbonnet blackbird and tarp. They are pricey for what they are but made for lightweight backpacking. You can also get stands for the hammock I guess for areas without trees.

In the hammocks you sleep at a 25 degree angle which helps you rest more flat.

You can also add insulation / underquilts and things to keep warm in cooler temps.

I find the hammock more comfortable than my own bed. The hard part is convincing the wife to use one, she isn't a fan of it. It's worth trying out at least as an option.

Oh also make sure to get some help with understanding what suspension you want and refresh on tying those knots so you don't fall overnight.
Hammocks all the way!
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I suppose with my rig, there are some snide comments behind my back for sure. I don't care one hoot. It is heavenly. Functional for me and my young boys and gets used, hard, in a wide range of terrain.








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That vid was not shot with a GoPro, but the GoPro effect of making the terrain look WAY more chill that it was, is in full effect...

My primary add-ons are just RTT (more on that later), storage system and fridge. These additions are each so fantastic, that I look back on scraping by without them a bit regretfully. All of my buddies who I "overland" with see how quick it is to set up and tear down camp (obviously to get back to some driving) and they are quite envious. It doesn't mean those other trips and rigs and adventures weren't great, they could have just been better and with fewer downsides via basic "creature comforts".

I’m enjoying this thread.
not a lot of hate, differing opinions staying civil and all.
Plus it’s nice to see so many with some humility and common every-day guy experience and sense!
...
I’d genuinely love to share a campfire with about 90% of y’all on here.
And man, the camper shell talk brought back memories.
...
Right on bro, similar perspective here.

I have a roof rack and RTT on my bronco all the time. I always wonder why people keep their rotopax, shovels, axes, and whatnot on the side of their truck all the time.
Yup, same here. Despite being not a total pig, it is a 4 person job to get her down and my garage is not tall enough for the rig itself with the rack, let alone with the tent or for a lifting rig to get the tent off solo.

The piece of gear I like to poke fun at myself is the snorkel specifically here in So Cal. Very few water crossings... No rigs that can ford anywhere near those heights anyway. I often hear push back in that the snorkels keep ones intake air cleaner. Yeah right, nonsense.

However, I think @Desertchief got RTTs almost entirely wrong and FACTUALLY so.

His RTT false claims:
  • Not stupidly heavy - plenty in the low 100 lb range. Mine can sleep 4 and only weighs about 150 lb
  • A RTT absolutely doesn't "completely ruin your handling". Just plain false. I know from high speed and crawling with mine on multiple rigs. Sure my rig might tip sideways a few degrees sooner than one without, absolutely. But that would come down to driver skill at the bitter end. Mine not only hasn't "ruined" anything but it is barely noticeable.
  • They do not destroy your fuel economy, affect mildly, yes.
  • They certainly are not annoying to use and are simple to set up in the light or the dark.
About the only thing he got right is that climbing down the ladder at night to release some "processed beer", indeed isn't fun.

Although I certainly do not have a spec of data on it, I also suspect he got it wrong that a large number of folks with heavily built and kitted out OL-ing rigs sold them at a loss and now have instead a simple mostly stock rig and tent camp. Indeed, many have abandoned or reduced their time doing this activity, but I just don't think that is the predominant evolution path.

The next thing he got wrong is that OL-ing rigs suck on the road. Although some OL rigs can indeed do so, many also don't. All it really takes to counter most of a rigs bad behaviors from added weight are springs, shocks and perhaps sway bars. Well and maybe upgraded brake pads... I know I am certainly blessed and maybe spoiled having a Bronco Raptor, but mine, is killer, everywhere; street, high speed "Baja" wheeling and crawling. The Raptor is such a great foundation for a true do it all rig and kind of a game changer in this regard.

Rats, I guess I spend too much time talking about gear here. I'm guilty, I'm an Overlander. I'm not keeping off the trails though.
 
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man, theres a lot of opinions in this thread :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

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Ha, indeed. My "brother in arms", crushing it with RTT in tow. Great picture. GoPro effect I'm sure here again!
 

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Rats, I guess I spend too much time talking about gear here. I'm guilty, I'm an Overlander. I'm not keeping off the trails though.
If my take on the video is correct, @Desertchief is not referencing people such as you. I believe he is talking about the hordes of people who ran out and bought all the recommended gear and became overlanders overnight because it was the hip thing to do, clogged up the trails for the last few years and have already moved on.
 

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I suppose with my rig, there are some snide comments behind my back for sure. I don't care one hoot. It is heavenly. Functional for me and my young boys and gets used, hard, in a wide range of terrain.








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That vid was not shot with a GoPro, but the GoPro effect of making the terrain look WAY more chill that it was, is in full effect...

My primary add-ons are just RTT (more on that later), storage system and fridge. These additions are each so fantastic, that I look back on scraping by without them a bit regretfully. All of my buddies who I "overland" with see how quick it is to set up and tear down camp (obviously to get back to some driving) and they are quite envious. It doesn't mean those other trips and rigs and adventures weren't great, they could have just been better and with fewer downsides via basic "creature comforts".



Right on bro, similar perspective here.



Yup, same here. Despite being not a total pig, it is a 4 person job to get her down and my garage is not tall enough for the rig itself with the rack, let alone with the tent or for a lifting rig to get the tent off solo.

The piece of gear I like to poke fun at myself is the snorkel specifically here in So Cal. Very few water crossings... No rigs that can ford anywhere near those heights anyway. I often hear push back in that the snorkels keep ones intake air cleaner. Yeah right, nonsense.

However, I think @Desertchief got RTTs almost entirely wrong and FACTUALLY so.

His RTT false claims:
  • Not stupidly heavy - plenty in the low 100 lb range. Mine can sleep 4 and only weighs about 150 lb
  • A RTT absolutely doesn't "completely ruin your handling". Just plain false. I know from high speed and crawling with mine on multiple rigs. Sure my rig might tip sideways a few degrees sooner than one without, absolutely. But that would come down to driver skill at the bitter end. Mine not only hasn't "ruined" anything but it is barely noticeable.
  • They do not destroy your fuel economy, affect mildly, yes.
  • They certainly are not annoying to use and are simple to set up in the light or the dark.
About the only thing he got right is that climbing down the ladder at night to release some "processed beer", indeed isn't fun.

Although I certainly do not have a spec of data on it, I also suspect he got it wrong that a large number of folks with heavily built and kitted out OL-ing rigs sold them at a loss and now have instead a simple mostly stock rig and tent camp. Indeed, many have abandoned or reduced their time doing this activity, but I just don't think that is the predominant evolution path.

The next thing he got wrong is that OL-ing rigs suck on the road. Although some OL rigs can indeed do so, many also don't. All it really takes to counter most of a rigs bad behaviors from added weight are springs, shocks and perhaps sway bars. Well and maybe upgraded brake pads... I know I am certainly blessed and maybe spoiled having a Bronco Raptor, but mine, is killer, everywhere; street, high speed "Baja" wheeling and crawling. The Raptor is such a great foundation for a true do it all rig and kind of a game changer in this regard.

Rats, I guess I spend too much time talking about gear here. I'm guilty, I'm an Overlander. I'm not keeping off the trails though.
You’re not even who I’m talking about here, but I’m glad you made the whole thing about you lol.

I, too, daily drive a Braptor. Even with the Whipple 91 tune, intercooler, and exhaust, the thing is such a pig on my long Baja trips. I have the Tuffy box, a hub tent, fridge, a power tank, recovery bag, and two carry-ons with our clothes. Absolutely hate the way it drives on those trips.

Completely unloaded around town? It’s like a damn Porsche 911 with 37’s on it.
 

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If my take on the video is correct, @Desertchief is not referencing people such as you. ...
Yeah, I know he wasn't talking about me or types like me. I still have many issues with his "facts".
 

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You’re not even who I’m talking about here, but I’m glad you made the whole thing about you lol.
Yeah, I know I'm not the target. I was using my case in part to refute most of your RTR claims.

Also, the thread is full of folks explaining their likes, dislikes, gear and pet peeves.

I, too, daily drive a Braptor. Even with the Whipple 91 tune, intercooler, and exhaust, the thing is such a pig on my long Baja trips. I have the Tuffy box, a hub tent, fridge, a power tank, recovery bag, and two carry-ons with our clothes. Absolutely hate the way it drives on those trips.

Completely unloaded around town? It’s like a damn Porsche 911 with 37’s on it.
Disagree on how the Braptor handles when loaded, even stock.

Also, since I own a 911, have to disagree on that as well. With my real time adjusting F&R sway bars it corners as flat as a race car. The Raptor, great for what it is in terms of pitch and roll for sure, but not even in the same league as a 911.
 
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