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I'm not so sure. I've watched mine roll a couple inches just parked on slightly uneven ground, forcing me into the habit of using the parking brake every time now. With a little momentum on a hill I can easily see it overcoming engine compression and rolling away.
You're probably right. It's been awhile since I drove a manual, thus my disclaimer.
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I mean, the facts are there, there was a malfunction (that didn't just happen, but was also documented by the Ford Pass app), the vehicle became inoperable, Ford refused to check the one computer system that had something to do with it (PCM) and checked another (RCM) that they knew wouldn't show anything and then randomly paid off $6000 for a made up story. Either you didn't watch or understand the video and facts presented or you don't have the intellectual firepower to keep up. Either way, there are some people that just won't believe Ford could do any wrong I guess.🤷‍♂️
Dude, you did everything wrong.

1) pushing in the clutch was dumb.

2) not using the parking brake was dumb.

The fact is that you lost control of your vehicle. Own up to it.
 

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When it first stalled out, I put my foot on the brake, it didn't brake, so I depressed the clutch, it is supposed to automatically restart. It did not, so I took both feet off the pedals and mashed both again, still nothing, no brakes and no restart, even when I pressed the button to restart, even though it's supposed to restart automatically without pressing the button. I get it, people weren't in my shoes, I might be skeptical too. I have stalled it out myself on multiple obstacles before at different parks. Nothing was new under the sun there, been there done that. However, each time I rolled back before, I hit the brakes, it stopped and I depress the clutch and it autostarts. This time was different, the electronics checked out. I mean there was a code that clearly stated there was an issue. That's all I can provide. My question to you, same as Ford, why did they not check out the PCM, why the RCM knowing there was no airbag deployment and why not the PCM when there was a powertrain related malfunction?

You do have to mash the clutch to get the engine to restart. It is possible had I just left the clutch out, it would have stopped I suppose, but it would never restart that way. And to be fair I didn't try the parking brake, it just seemed I had a better chance doing what I was doing.
A valid question, and one only Ford could provide an answer to.
 
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Dude, you did everything wrong.

1) pushing in the clutch was dumb.

2) not using the parking brake was dumb.

The fact is that you lost control of your vehicle. Own up to it.
1.) won't restart until you do that, duh! Which would return power to the brakes. 2.) I'm not sure that has the power to stop a vehicle from rolling down a steep hill, maybe you're right about that though. But explain the powertrian malfunction code, explain why Ford won't check the PCM, explain why they are freely giving people $6000? Anyway, you don't listen and/or understand, I won't accept responsiblilty for their defective product, not going to happen bro.
 

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Dude, you did everything wrong.

1) pushing in the clutch was dumb.

2) not using the parking brake was dumb.

The fact is that you lost control of your vehicle. Own up to it.

Yeah, sad to say, this is the the likely reason nobody wanted to touch this. There were a few "variables" that could've prevented the damage. As long as those exhist, it will be chalked up as "user error" and your only recourse would be an insurance claim.
 

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Ford bought back my Bronco and it was the easiest process imaginable. guess it depends on who the caseworker is. Zero complaints here.
 

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Everyone dogging him about the rolling but the fact that Ford had no answer to the malfunctions and to pay $6K to him. They just don't give away money like it's halloween candy. So many of you are stuck on that portion and totally ignore the other portion. It's typical for a vehicle specific forum
 

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I'm sorry the Bronco did not work out but I have gotten rid of cars in the past becuase of safety issues for my family and understand completely. Myself (and apparently the general public), I could care less about and have driven the sketchiest things for the longest periods of time. I seem to invite disasters as I am currently in the process of getting a Honda Acty.

I hate the electronic emergency brake on this thing and I have watched too many electronic bits on my Bronco glitch out, not work, then return to normal. The parking brake failing is a recurring thought and I would feel much more confident with an emergency brake that did not rely on the dodgy battery. Or a battery system that freaks out if the voltage is too low. Fortunately for me, any glitches have not been a major component that effects a core function of moving from point A to B. I have just chalked it up to it either being an American brand car which I have not owned since my 20s or just Ford quality in general, which I have not owned since my 20s; completely related to each other.
 

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I know this will piss a lot of people off, I was once a Ford guy myself, but after this incident no more. I'm sure most of you have had good service from yours and that's good a nd I hope it continues. I posted a year ago and said I'd follow up after all was done. It's been done for some time and here's how it went. I would have put this under warranty claims, but Ford didn't cover anything willingly.

I wasn't there but it looks like you stalled it when you got to the rock..maybe you should have stopped before that obstacle..select the proper gear. Disable ass...maybe put in sport mode. If it stalled and you had in in 4 low and crawl gear and foot off clutch...I don't think it would have rolled backwards at any destructive velocity. Also looks like you forgot to use your steering wheel as you rolled backwards worried about restarting.
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I "had to" sever my 30 year relationship with American Honda due to corporate asshattery. Frankly, they're all asshats.

But it's just business. Don't take it personally. But since there are many choices in the world, we can afford to move on.

Anyway, it is just business--don't hesitate to buy another Ford if it floats your boat.

That was a good looking rig, though. Damn shame.
I disagree. I believed in Ford too and purchased a 2023 Bronco Wildtrac. I believe that Ford has committed fraud in saying that these vehicles can be flat towed by an RV, and their behavior towards their customers when a transmission is lost as a result of this is criminal as well. We are immediately guilty until proven innocent and they refuse to evaluate or consider any evidence. Many experienced RVers can tell you that Broncos are safe to flat tow is absolutely false based on their personal experience. But Ford discards these customers like yesterday’s trash. Ford’s quality has plummeted as stated in the class action lawsuit filed by new stock owners of Ford filed in August 2023. Ford overvalued their stock because they failed to take into consideration the huge volume of warranty work required because of poor quality workmanship and poor design of their vehicles. I believe this is a big reason they are failing to honor their contractual obligation of warranty work to their customers. I will never buy another Ford vehicle, and if I owned Ford stock, I would sell it immediately. I am so sorry to hear this happed to Floridaburgbronco. I can totally empathize with his experience.
 

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Everyone dogging him about the rolling but the fact that Ford had no answer to the malfunctions and to pay $6K to him. They just don't give away money like it's halloween candy. So many of you are stuck on that portion and totally ignore the other portion. It's typical for a vehicle specific forum
Exactly the point I try to make in the video. It's nice that someone gets it. Ford hoped and got it right that I didn't want to wait as long as the other guy, who did end up settling for a decent amount. However, he was involved in a 2+year lawsuit where he had to maintain all insurance, registration and make monthly payments. I hate being a "big corporations are evil" person and I'm usually not, but they have more staying power than one individual. But as you mentioned, they knew something was wrong, otherwise they don't just shell out $6000 for no reason. I just couldn't stay in the game and have a brand car payment and not use that vehicle. Would I have prevailed? I think so, but if i didn't, I would have wasted a ton of money and time.
 

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Exactly the point I try to make in the video. It's nice that someone gets it. Ford hoped and got it right that I didn't want to wait as long as the other guy, who did end up settling for a decent amount. However, he was involved in a 2+year lawsuit where he had to maintain all insurance, registration and make monthly payments. I hate being a "big corporations are evil" person and I'm usually not, but they have more staying power than one individual. But as you mentioned, they knew something was wrong, otherwise they don't just shell out $6000 for no reason. I just couldn't stay in the game and have a brand car payment and not use that vehicle. Would I have prevailed? I think so, but if i didn't, I would have wasted a ton of money and time.
Before my Bronco, I had a 22 Sierra 5.3. I had a lifter tick and it was 3 pages of user error, bad gas, wrong oil, blah blah. Even though it's a serious problem with GMC/Chevy V8s. People are so brand and model loyal that nothing can be wrong/.
 

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When it comes to the domestics, I've always had the best luck with Fords. Until I got my '19 F150, that is. In the shop three times within the first 20K miles (most involved was a full set of cam phaser solenoids), terrible fit and finish to boot. Pisses me off every time I get behind the wheel and see the warped dash. Pretty sad when the F150 is Ford's cash cow.

My experience with this truck is near the top of the list of reasons I haven't pulled the trigger on a Bronco, I have a hard time rewarding mediocrity. But now that Ford thinks they're worth pricing like a luxury brand, that's also factor too. Ironic, with a Jeep in the stable (glitch free 18 months in). :)
 

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I'm confused. It was a manual transmission, correct? You were obviously in gear going up the hill. How did it roll backwards when you lost power and brakes? It seems to me being in gear and off the clutch pedal would have stopped it from rolling backwards. What am I missing?
because he mashed in the clutch according to his video trying to recrank while flying backward....Ford should deny!
 

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Unless it's blatantly obvious user error I will alway side with an owner. Auto manufacturers are some of the most shady businesses out there and never deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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