ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

[604Bronco]

Keeping up with the Star Wars memes - I love it!

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[Jazer]

Maybe I missed this, but what were the invoices that APG sent to ADV for?

To me, that seems to be a huge part.

That's the 4 million dollar question.

 

[huey]

Maybe I should charge for that link, get a little money for myself

how much lol - you take fordpass points

 

[Pseudoko]

That's the 4 million dollar question.

Not defending ADV in any way, but for months they were offering refunds. I got mine back with no issues at the end of April. But if 50% of the money went to invoices to APG… APG should be handing money back too… but nope. ADV at least gave some of the money back, but I haven’t heard of APG doing anything. Well s*** we didn’t even know APG was the one responsible for sourcing the manufacturing until a few days ago.

 

[BOLD Renegade93]

Keeping up with the Star Wars memes - I love it!

 

[Sunday Money]

We get new people signing up every time you do and make lots of money on it so it doesn’t bother us any since we don’t personally promote it much at all but still are in the top .1% of earners on the site and that’s mostly thanks to people talking crap and posting about.

Why so defensive? Don't pay no attention to the haters, yo! As a select member of the "top .1% of earners" on that other site, that means you're at 99.9% and making $10-12M a year, right? If that's true, why would you even respond to this site? Unless, umm... maybe that was a false or misleading statement?

 

[SierraBronco]

Why so defensive? Don't pay no attention to the haters, yo! As a select member of the "top .1% of earners" on that other site, that means you're at 99.9% and making $10-12M a year, right? If that's true, why would you even respond to this site? Unless, umm... maybe that was a false or misleading statement?

Hey hey hey. Let’s be fair and recognize they had no idea that this was happening. They got a prototype top and released the video telling the world, and ADV, that APG was designing and selling their own top directly. They have simply decided to defend their honor of online whuring by defending APG despite APG trying to scrub all the evidence of the partnership from the internet. Going as far as to release a statement that says “we would never presell a product that isn’t done” despite their directing forum members to ADV for preorders. Then deleting those posts. They’re so honorable and disconnected from the debacle that they still decided to release a video, despite being informed of the previous malfeasance, this very day promoting APG tierod sleeves and a pretty janky looking heim tierod solution.

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[Toccoa]

Meanwhile, Disney Star Wars fans…

 

[Tooold]

Not defending ADV in any way, but for months they were offering refunds. I got mine back with no issues at the end of April. But if 50% of the money went to invoices to APG… APG should be handing money back too… but nope. ADV at least gave some of the money back, but I haven’t heard of APG doing anything. Well s*** we didn’t even know APG was the one responsible for sourcing the manufacturing until a few days ago.

Yes. APG and ADV both got paid according to their deal (I assume). Sounds like ADV threw their hands up after APG didn't deliver the product. ADV is trying to point this out to their customers by posting the lawsuit. (NOT SAYING THAT EXCUSES ADV).

APG keeps posturing threw LB and their "statement" that they are still planning on releasing the top once it's ready. I assume they can't say when because it's a real S@%! Show they're faced with.

We can only hope that APG is planing on doing the right thing. RIGHT @APG ? I mean if a manufaturing company got the money owed from their distributor...why wouldn't they be obligated to deliver the product? Especially if they're actually are able to produce and sell it directly to their new customers.

Yeah, sure if ADV is out of the picture, APG will have the burden of individually shipping each top directly to the end user, but hey, they certainly would do everything possible to make things right? If these logistics are just to complicated for them, I'm sure they are willing to reimburse customers out of the 4.4 million dollars the received.

@APG, your customers are eagerly waiting to hear about what you're planning to do. ASSUMING you really did benefit to the tune of 4.4 million dollars collected from them.
Thanks in advance for making things right! The Bronco community will certainly remember it.

 

[PhilCharnas]

Not defending ADV in any way, but for months they were offering refunds. I got mine back with no issues at the end of April. But if 50% of the money went to invoices to APG… APG should be handing money back too… but nope. ADV at least gave some of the money back, but I haven’t heard of APG doing anything. Well s*** we didn’t even know APG was the one responsible for sourcing the manufacturing until a few days ago.

This.

APG is trying hard to put distance between itself and the customers that have been funding whatever development and production it’s been engaged in. “Oh, it’s not us, it’s ADV that took your money. We don’t know anything despite our close partnership, contractual agreement, and use of ADV as an exclusive distributor for our tops.”

ADV made several bad business decisions and eroded all customer trust by providing bullshit excuses for over a year that all reasonable and objective people saw through. I think when the whole truth is finally exposed, however, APG will be equally or more culpable than ADV.

 

[Elonmsk]

Millions of dollars in tooling……


Either that makes sense, or you’re new here.

 

[pakrat]

This.

APG is trying hard to put distance between itself and the customers that have been funding whatever development and production it’s been engaged in. “Oh, it’s not us, it’s ADV that took your money. We don’t know anything despite our close partnership, contractual agreement, and use of ADV as an exclusive distributor for our tops.”

ADV made several bad business decisions and eroded all customer trust by providing bullshit excuses for over a year that all reasonable and objective people saw through. I think when the whole truth is finally exposed, however, APG will be equally or more culpable than ADV.

Exactly.

It sure looks like ADV simply ran out of money to refund with and APG wasn't going to help with the refund funding with the money fronted them by ADV. I mean if they sold 1200 some units ADV would have run out of money refunding at around half that number. Total speculation of course but ADV had to throw in the towel.

They probably could have pulled this off if APG had kicked some back to keep the refund train going for another month or so IF they can actually produce a top in Sept. That's customer money and they are gonna have to pay with a top or money. Better get producing @APG. Both of them are complete piles in equal amounts.

 

[BOLD Renegade93]

Millions of dollars in tooling……


Either that makes sense, or you’re new here.

 

[Triguy914]

am I the only one that thinks that a youtuber for offroad gear/ lifestyle has to make $ from having an OF account for his wife/ costar?

Sorta says this is a failure over here, if i have to make $ over there.. Does he put her on a sugardaddy site next and start pimping her?

 

[vrtical]

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