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Love it! Suspension mods to manage the additional weight? Measure the change in height before/after? Thanks.Not today. But over the last week
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I am trying to avoid that as the light is not dispersed as designed when there upside down. The other company that does 3 3" cubes has BD flip the lens so they work properly. Other option is to get the longer brackets and flip the lights which I am doing. Those replace the ones that come on the lights so they can be flipped. Fog lights that are upside down are going shine the light up not down. Big issue.
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If you notice these close ups of his lights. He does have them oriented the correct way.
As you see, the PRINT is rightside up.
Baja does not sell reverse brackets. There are several kits in which Baja designs make their lights to mount top side vs bottom side. In those cases, they have the frames and lenses flipped.
You yourself are allowed to do this if you want and buy a set of Baja lights because they have the consumer based "U-SERVICE" lenses.
In fact, Baja even has some mounts where the light mount SIDEWAYS...
Here is an example of that on an F-150-
https://www.bajadesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/Installation Instructions/FGXX_447868-INS_001.pdf
So again, brackets to flip the lights are not something Baja Designs does, or pushes. A third party produces those. We looked at producing some a long time ago but decided not to for a couple reasons. Baja doesn't see the need since its easy to rotate your lenses, but also because the mounting point is now all the way to the OTHER SIDE of the light leaving the LONGER bracket to more vibration or movement.
The key here is that the lights have the proper orientation.
If you put a set of light in any upside down setting, and they were spots, driving combo, scene or wide cornering. It wouldn't matter and the light pattern would be unchanged. The only cosmetic thing is the PRINT "Baja Designs" would be upside down.
The exception is the SAE lights Baja now has out. Those are directional. So if the OPTICS are upside down, then the beam would aim UP and not down.
His lights and optics in his truck are all correct and aimed right.
However, if the optics and print are not rightside up, then yours may not be.
The only exception to a consumer rotating the lenses comes with the SAE models. Baja does not want consumers to do this. Because the optics (refractors) are attached to the circuit board. So you will want to SPECIFICALLY request "Reversed Optic" SAE lights. (If you get one of our kits, like this, you will get them that way.)
So going back to that F-150 bracket. Since it mounts sideways, EVERY light should have the lenses rotated or you will have aiming issues except the scene and spot lenses. The Wide corner, combo and SAE would aim vertical instead of horizontal.
In short, if you order a kit from us for a Bronco, or a Raptor, F-150, etc. Your lights will not be aimed wrong. If you buy lights by themselves and add them after the fact, you may need to rotate the lenses/frames or request SAE lights that are optic reversed.
An exception to flip brackets are Rigid lights. The Rigid D-Series and Radiance lights do have optional top side mounting brackets because Rigid does NOT allow you to remove the frames and flip them. However, it doesn't matter optically if the print is upside down as those lights are uniform patterns in both directions. It would be a cosmetic thing.
Hope this helps!
John
Hold my beer!If you notice these close ups of his lights. He does have them oriented the correct way.
As you see, the PRINT is rightside up.
Baja does not sell reverse brackets. There are several kits in which Baja designs make their lights to mount top side vs bottom side. In those cases, they have the frames and lenses flipped.
You yourself are allowed to do this if you want and buy a set of Baja lights because they have the consumer based "U-SERVICE" lenses.
In fact, Baja even has some mounts where the light mount SIDEWAYS...
Here is an example of that on an F-150-
https://www.bajadesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/Installation Instructions/FGXX_447868-INS_001.pdf
So again, brackets to flip the lights are not something Baja Designs does, or pushes. Someone else came up with those. We looked at producing some a long time ago but decided not to for a couple reasons. Baja doesn't see the need since its easy to rotate your lenses, but also because the mounting point is now all the way to the OTHER SIDE of the light leaving the LONGER bracket to more vibration or movement.
The key here is that the lights have the proper orientation.
If you put a set of light in any upside down setting, and they were spots, driving combo, scene or wide cornering. It wouldn't matter and the light pattern would be unchanged. The only cosmetic thing is the PRINT "Baja Designs" would be upside down.
The exception is the SAE lights Baja now has out. Those are directional. So if the OPTICS are upside down, then the beam would aim UP and not down.
His lights and optics in his truck are all correct and aimed right.
However, if the optics and print are not rightside up, then yours may not be.
The only exception to a consumer rotating the lenses comes with the SAE models. Baja does not want consumers to do this. Because the optics (refractors) are attached to the circuit board. So you will want to SPECIFICALLY request "Reversed Optic" SAE lights. (If you get one of our kits, like this, you will get them that way.)
So going back to that F-150 bracket. Since it mounts sideways, EVERY light should have the lenses rotated or you will have aiming issues except the scene and spot lenses. The Wide corner, combo and SAE would aim vertical instead of horizontal.
In short, if you order a kit from us for a Bronco, or a Raptor, F-150, etc. Your lights will not be aimed wrong. If you buy lights by themselves and add them after the fact, you may need to rotate the lenses/frames or request SAE lights that are optic reversed.
An exception to flip brackets are Rigid lights. The Rigid D-Series and Radiance lights do have optional top side mounting brackets because Rigid does NOT allow you to remove the frames and flip them. However, it doesn't matter optically if the print is upside down as those lights are uniform patterns in both directions. It would be a cosmetic thing.
Hope this helps!
John
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Great info John. I will see what lights show up. I think it would be better to rotate the lenses than longer brackets. I should be covered either way. The installer is a BD dealer so I was trying let him make some money. Ordered your brackets which should arrive tomorrow. I like your design better. I will do lots of stuff mechanically, electrical is not one of them. Dad was an electrician- I was covered. He would knock out anything. I can soldier and use shrink but not willing to venture in areas unknown with a 60K truck and lots of computers.If you notice these close ups of his lights. He does have them oriented the correct way.
As you see, the PRINT is rightside up.
Baja does not sell reverse brackets. There are several kits in which Baja designs make their lights to mount top side vs bottom side. In those cases, they have the frames and lenses flipped.
You yourself are allowed to do this if you want and buy a set of Baja lights because they have the consumer based "U-SERVICE" lenses.
In fact, Baja even has some mounts where the light mount SIDEWAYS...
Here is an example of that on an F-150-
https://www.bajadesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/Installation Instructions/FGXX_447868-INS_001.pdf
So again, brackets to flip the lights are not something Baja Designs does, or pushes. A third party produces those. We looked at producing some a long time ago but decided not to for a couple reasons. Baja doesn't see the need since its easy to rotate your lenses, but also because the mounting point is now all the way to the OTHER SIDE of the light leaving the LONGER bracket to more vibration or movement.
The key here is that the lights have the proper orientation.
If you put a set of light in any upside down setting, and they were spots, driving combo, scene or wide cornering. It wouldn't matter and the light pattern would be unchanged. The only cosmetic thing is the PRINT "Baja Designs" would be upside down.
The exception is the SAE lights Baja now has out. Those are directional. So if the OPTICS are upside down, then the beam would aim UP and not down.
His lights and optics in his truck are all correct and aimed right.
However, if the optics and print are not rightside up, then yours may not be.
The only exception to a consumer rotating the lenses comes with the SAE models. Baja does not want consumers to do this. Because the optics (refractors) are attached to the circuit board. So you will want to SPECIFICALLY request "Reversed Optic" SAE lights. (If you get one of our kits, like this, you will get them that way.)
So going back to that F-150 bracket. Since it mounts sideways, EVERY light should have the lenses rotated or you will have aiming issues except the scene and spot lenses. The Wide corner, combo and SAE would aim vertical instead of horizontal.
In short, if you order a kit from us for a Bronco, or a Raptor, F-150, etc. Your lights will not be aimed wrong. If you buy lights by themselves and add them after the fact, you may need to rotate the lenses/frames or request SAE lights that are optic reversed.
An exception to flip brackets are Rigid lights. The Rigid D-Series and Radiance lights do have optional top side mounting brackets because Rigid does NOT allow you to remove the frames and flip them. However, it doesn't matter optically if the print is upside down as those lights are uniform patterns in both directions. It would be a cosmetic thing.
Hope this helps!
John
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Thank you for allowing us to earn your business on the brackets, Tom!
If you would rather have our patented plug-and-play harnesses for your lighting, we do offer some of the best wiring on the market, and we would be happy to help you get the correct wiring for your setup.
In the future, if you ever need more lighting, please let us know. We have a vast array of light kits, which all include kit discounts. We can also create customized light kits, and make sure you are still saving quite a bit of money on everything in them. We also offer price-matching.
So, if you're looking for the best deal on the best quality products, we would love to make sure you are getting both.
Feel free to reach out to us by call or text at (317) 934-6778 any time you have questions or need help with anything.
Thanks!
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Yeah, and to recap, because it can be confusing for those who buy lights for various mounting positions in any vehicle. For example on A-Pillars, you mount them from the bottom. Many fog brackets from the top or the sides as shown above. In any case, with Baja you can always rotate the frames or lenses with ONE Exception. This is the big one. Their NEW SAE lights. So you will want to have the model that is rotated for that in the SAE. Other than that, they make it very very easy.
Like Sidney said though, we can always help you or anyone with any full kit at some much more attractive bundle discounts than just ala carte and then you can always throw your installer a BIG TIP! LOL and still come out ahead!
All jokes aside, we are always happy to help anyone with any guidance and products.
John
Finally got off my duff and installed my Ford Performance rear diff. I am in the club now. So glad I read the threads on 6G, buying the squeeze packages turned out to be a lifesaver because of how my rear bar is situated.
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Gave the Red Beast a much needed bath, sauna and massage.
Wife took the Bronc across county last week and killed every bug that Tropical Storm Beryl didn't drowned in TX. Cleaning that WT grill, with all those damn slots was a PITA!
So Saturday morning, in the hot AZ heat, was the only quality, Bromantic time I got to spend with my Ford homie. My brotha from an assembly line motha!
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