Allocation/Reservation Summary and "Real" World Example

[mikeheel]

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[Gamecock]

I don't know what Ford is going to do, I just don't think anyone is getting 500 broncos.

We shall see...but they already backtracked once and tries to game it to favor bigger dealers, going back on their commitment to consumers who reserved. Then Grabger reacted and put things back in their favor to a degree. Would Ford bend over reservation holders again? Maybe, like you said, no telling what Ford will do, since they backed down once. Just hard to see them bowing down again. The big dealers in big markets have an advantage in the formula...maybe Ford thinks now it’s up to them to actually go compete and earn some orders.

 

[boxwood]

Do you think a dealer is going to get 500 Broncos?

Eventually they would, right?, but thats one of the big questions, isn't it? How does time play a role?

I am sure there are dealers with 500 reservations. if yours is really 8th highest volume, its probably got close to that many if not more.

lets pretendI ford can produce 120k units in a year (10k a month) Does ford allocate 10k each month? each week? once big allocation in feb?

lets say there are 150k orders, and granger had 1000 of those, are they getting 500 allotted or are they getting some proportion of the 150k based on 50% weight of their orders, 25% weight on their volume 25% on jeeps. Thus leaving the final number a little more amorphous

 

[Studawg]

I'd say anyone that first week should feel very safe regardless of dealer size. I think the further the date out progresses, then the dealer size starts to matter.

Now if 1000 people with first week reservations all transferred to one dealer, then I'd be worried.

So it wouldnt depend on when they reserved it and when they ordered it?

So then what happens to that order?

Poof?

Seriously?

And that’s really the most important part. The holding. Anybody can just take ‘em!!

So if dealers can only fill so many orders, when they are full, then their name should be dropped of the list of selectable dealers when people either reserve one or go to change dealers.

I say all this somewhat in jest because I don’t think there is anyway something like this will happen. As someone alluded to elsewhere, it would be a public relations nightmare.

 

[boxwood]

I say all this somewhat in jest because I don’t think there is anyway something like this will happen. As someone alluded to elsewhere, it would be a public relations nightmare.

Are you saying you don't think that reservation holders will be skipped over because of allocations?

I was actually wondering how this would become a pr nightmare. How would people really know. At least on a large scale. As Kris mentioned, the likelihood early reservation holders will be served quickly is pretty high, the further you get down on the list, the more difficult it is to tell, and the more variables are at play. Not saying it couldn't blow up in Ford's face. Just saying it could easily be hidden by other factors.

 

[72roadster]

Found this post was curious where this info came from

Ford will then sort the orders received from all dealers by reservation number prior to production.

 

[Studawg]

Are you saying you don't think that reservation holders will be skipped over because of allocations?

I was actually wondering how this would become a pr nightmare. How would people really know. At least on a large scale. As Kris mentioned, the likelihood early reservation holders will be served quickly is pretty high, the further you get down on the list, the more difficult it is to tell, and the more variables are at play. Not saying it couldn't blow up in Ford's face. Just saying it could easily be hidden by other factors.

I’m saying I don’t think “allocations” will prevent anyone who ordered a Bronco from receiving it in a time consistent with when it was reserved and ordered and relative to when all the other orders are fulfilled, regardless of dealership, and that no orders will go unfulfilled.

I just can’t imagine that being a real possibility.

If that can’t happen, then “allocations” as they traditionally occur just don’t apply this year.

If someone were to be told, “sorry, your order can’t be fulfilled and the ordering process is closed, you gotta wait until next year” and it were happen to anyone on this forum, we will all know about it in an instant, and then it will be on the twitterbooks and then all the other people it happened to will be raising hell.... etc....

But I could be totally wrong, I am not a franchise dealer, or Ford, so I don’t know how it works.

 

[BlueBronco]

I think I speak for most people here when I say that I am sick and f'n tired of the pot stirring when it comes to people receiving/not receiving a Bronco depending on where they reserved and how many reservations said dealership has.

Bottom line, if you reserved a Bronco you will get one. It may not be a MY2021 due to production laws. It may be a MY2022. And you may not receive it until the first month of 2022 because of when you reserved but you will get a Bronco.

The reality is, Ford had 150k reservations in the first 2 weeks. Assuming the 75% conversion rate thats about 112k orders. What people have to understand is it will take the better part of 2021 to build just those units assuming Job 1 is in May. So the idea people need to get used to is, that just because you reserved in the first few days does not mean your Bronco will roll off the assembly line in the first few months of production. The sheer volume of the first few days reservation numbers (converted to orders), coupled with manufacturing limits, mean we all need to get used to the idea of a latter than expected Bronco. It won't have anything to do with dealership allocations.

This is the reality.

 

[Kris87]

I don't care how many reservations someone has. I actually think it is important for dealers to post their allocation numbers, so their customers know what kind of time frame to expect on getting a Bronco. Why is that so bad?

If Ford came straight out and told me today, hey you're not going to have nearly enough Broncos to cover your orders, is it right to keep that private? Or let my customers know?

 

[Carolina Jim]

I actually think it is important for dealers to post their allocation numbers, so their customers know what kind of time frame to expect on getting a Bronco.

I thought I read Ford will not communicate dealer allocation numbers until February. Am I mistaken?

 

[Kris87]

I thought I read Ford will not communicate dealer allocation numbers until February. Am I mistaken?

I think we'll know January or February. Sounds about right based on the 40-50 day window to convert orders and let them analyze them.

 

[Carolina Jim]

I think we'll know January or February.

Prolly a good estimate...but the point is you can't "let your customers know", before you even know yourself

 

[Kris87]

Prolly a good estimate...but the point is you can't "let your customers know", before you even know yourself

Certainly. I just meant when that info is available.

 

[jonwithanelcamino]

Prolly a good estimate...but the point is you can't "let your customers know", before you even know yourself

Mwuahahha! He just like to call out @Granger Ford any chance he gets. Perks of hiding behind a keyboard

 

[Rick Astley]

FYI: It has been stated by Ford before, and was the case with Ranger, that once your VIN is created that it will take approximately 8-10 weeks for delivery of that vehicle. (Baring unforeseen circumstances, delays in parts or delivery)

And once your VIN is created, you'll basically not be able to make changes to the build. I have heard that if a customer is able to get their dealership to actually change the build that they discard that VIN, the dealer gets in trouble for cancelling an order, and the customer goes back in the hopper for the next batch of VIN's to be created.

Thankfully the B&P will go live on October 13th which will give people plenty of time to have their build, and finance projections, solidified so they are ready to piss or get off the pot the moment the dealership calls on them to convert their reservation to an order.

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