Ford Performance Tune for WT or should I pass?

[Brian_B]

Coming to this thread way late. I recently lifted my Bronco and this allows me to adjust tire revolutions as well as shut off start/stop. That was a big perk in itself but the power is also desirable (shift points too) obviously. I don't mind running 91 octane but will it damage my engine if I run 87. I don't feel like there was a clear resolution to that answer.

So the issue with running 87 on a tune (or running premium on a non-tune)

The octane rating is a measure for how well the fuel will resist knocking. Higher boost levels and spark advance lead to more power - but it also can make fuel pre-detonate (knock, or ping) if it’s too aggressive. The pinging can, over time, pit cylinders and damage them.

On the stock tune - the engine is tuned pretty conservatively, and can modestly advance timing and boost a bit if doesn’t detect any knock. This is where you can get a bit of a boost on the stock just by filling up with premium.

With the FPT - it starts out more aggressive assuming you have higher test gas in the first place. If it detects pinging it will start to retard to save the engine. So a tank here or there of 87 probably won’t break your engine, but running it constantly isn’t good - you should flash back to stock if that’s your plan.

That’s part of the difference: stock tune will start safe and tip toe up to something modestly more aggressive; FPT starts out aggressive and drops back when it detects problems, but you will have probably had knock events in the cylinders before it knows to derate back down, and it will keep knocking until it finds that safe level. Stock tune will ramp up until it sees any ping at all, then back it down a notch and call it good.

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[CapeCodCash]

I have it on my Badlands, and it's great.

BUT, if I had an automatic transmission I don't know if it's worth the cost to be honest. The primary reason why I bought it was for the rev-matching with the manual transmission, and for that feature alone it's pretty awesome.

The performance tune itself is very much like driving around in Sport mode 24/7... except now you have the requirement of premium fuel. It doesn't make sense in my head to effectively add something you already had in the Sport mode, while simultaneously taking away the flexibility of fueling up with lower octane fuels.

BUT, maybe I'm off-base here. Will have to see how those with an automatic feel about it.

It does not. The tune works in tandem with the factory warranty as long as it is installed by a Ford/Lincoln dealership OR and ASE/RSE certified technician.

If you don't mind me asking................what does this tune cost $$ ??

 

[Brian_B]

If you don't mind me asking................what does this tune cost $$ ??

FPT retails for around $800 but can often be found for less - Lethal Performance just had it on sale for around $600 if I’m not mistaken.

That price does not include ASE installation - it’s easy enough to DIY, but may have warranty issues if you chose to do so.

 

[CapeCodCash]

FPT retails for around $800 but can often be found for less - Lethal Performance just had it on sale for around $600 if I’m not mistaken.

That price does not include ASE installation - it’s easy enough to DIY, but may have warranty issues if you chose to do so.

Thanks for that. Just lining up my tax return $$ wish list.........

 

[Obeh4ve]

Anyone have an idea how long it takes for the FPT to be available for a new model year? I have a '24 coming and I'd like to have it done at delivery or soon there after. Reality may impact my plans

 

[Brian_B]

Anyone have an idea how long it takes for the FPT to be available for a new model year? I have a '24 coming and I'd like to have it done at delivery or soon there after. Reality may impact my plans

Depends on if you live in California or not.

Seems like MY2023 was available in January but took a few more months to be fully CARB certified for both the 2.7 and 2.3

going off memory there though and I’ve had a few beers

 

[Obeh4ve]

Depends on if you live in California or not.

Seems like MY2023 was available in January but took a few more months to be fully CARB certified for both the 2.7 and 2.3

going off memory there though and I’ve had a few beers

Thanks. No CARB worries for me

 

[CMFINC]

mine gets its roush tune 2ed week in jan.. and cold air intake.

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