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Installing Rear Fog/Chase Light Using Factory Switch & Harness

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I’m also really torn on installing the DD 3 way switch somewhere. I already have the factory switch with rear fog…but, to be honest - I don’t know if I trust myself with custom wiring.

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I'm also planning to run some DD SS3's, but sorry if this has already been covered...this thread is huge and already spent 1hr sifting through to find the answer. So this is adding the trigger from the new M2DZ-11654-CC with rear fog switch AND also powering the lights, correct? Are you still using DD's kit DD4133 or are you able to bypass this need completely? I'm not clear on what you're using from the DD harness perspective. Also, do your backlights work or are you splicing into the parking lights at some point? I know SPVParts has this plug-n-play connector for backlight..

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There is no need to separately order DD4133. The DD Stage Series Reverse Light Kit includes the wiring necessary for the lights to be tied into your existing tail light harness. With the Reverse Light Kit installed the pod lights will act as red accent lights when your lights are turned on and will turn white when you go into reverse.

So no, the solution I have shared does not bypass the need to tie into your existing tail light harness. It adds the ability to make the trigger wire be controlled by the M2DZ-11654-CC rear fog button, instead of using an aux switch.

With the trigger wire unattached you will just have the DD lights integrated with your tail lights / reverse lights.

The install video covers how the DD kit wires into your factory harness here:

With the trigger wire attached to an aux switch or to M2DZ-11654-CC with rear fog switch using a EU2Z-14421-BA wire in connector C424 you can turn the white lights on, with the flip of your switch / button of choice.
 
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I guess that’s where my plan differs. I don’t want the amber backlights to turn on with headlights. Only with the rear fog button. But, I also want to be able to use the white light on demand. I’m thinking the DD manual switch is my best bet.

Does your reverse camera still work well with the extra reverse lights?
 

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I guess that’s where my plan differs. I don’t want the amber backlights to turn on with headlights. Only with the rear fog button. But, I also want to be able to use the white light on demand. I’m thinking the DD manual switch is my best bet.

Does your reverse camera still work well with the extra reverse lights?
I see what you mean by the differing plan, though I don't know how to achieve it as the stage series reverse light kit is designed to operate in conjunction with the headlights/taillights. I've seen threads where folks are trying to achieve the 'rear fog' w/o headlights on but no one has offered a forscan solution that I'm aware of. I would love to have this functionality myself.

You can turn on rear zone lighting to have the DD and taillight white lights illuminated w/o your headlights on while NOT driving.

Reverse camera works great with the additional lighting. No negative impact that I've noticed, just better lighting when I look at the rear view camera when backing up.
 

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I believe the C424 connector is a TE generation Y connector and the actual pin number is 1924968-3. This is the best option if you are comfortable with crimping wires and repining connectors.
 

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Here's a bit more detail on what I did to modify the bumper side of the C424 connector so that my rear Didode Dynamics lights work with the push of the rear fog button on my M2DZ-11654-CC switch (while the headlights are on). I unplugged the connector, peeled back the wire harness tape, and noted that there are two wires running into the sealed end of the connector.

I used a drill bit to drill a hole in the back of the bumper side connector. I stepped up to a 7/64 bit for it to be large enough to get the EU2Z-14421-BA connector to fit through. In the process of figuring out the right size and getting the routing precise, I broke two of the five connectors in the kit and managed to break through the sheathing to expose the bare wiring on a 3rd connector. It's good that the kit came with 5 connectors, as I still have one spare. ;) I eventually remembered that I had some baling wire that I could work through the hole and into the correct pin location.
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Now instead of two pins on the bumper side of the C424 connector I have three.
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I plugged the two sides of the C424 connector back together and tested the bare end of the EU2Z-14421-BA wire with my voltmeter to ensure power was passing through, indicating a good pin connection.
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I add a bit of silicon to help seal the new wire, taped up the connector and ran the new 18 gauge wire across the frame, under the heat shield behind the 10mm bolt on the driver side above the muffler. (Red line shows routing)
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The wire runs into the same grommet as the diode dynamics wiring harness into the cargo space, under the rear plastic trim, and tucks into the same space as the diode dynamics harness on the rear passenger panel area. (This pic was before crimping and heat shrinking the connector)
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Hard to tell from the description and pics, but can you circle the pin from this screen shot of which pin/connector bank you used?

Im working with John @SPVPARTS to see if he can make me a T harness to use that will be plug-n-play. Should be much easier, and likely cheaper, than replacing with the OEM euro bumper harness or punching through the connector and running a separate wire...
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Thanks to John @SPVPARTS for his help taking care of all my front/rear lighting needs, initially spending well over an hour discussing my setup. He went over and beyond, even texting back/forth with updates and answering questions before and AFTER purchase. Rear light setup with DD SS3 Sport floods:
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He’s also working to make a T-harness to plug into the C424 connector and for a switch lead per the work by @Dadsquatch and @FordOwner. They're only working in reverse currently while he works on it.
 

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Thanks to John @SPVPARTS for his help taking care of all my front/rear lighting needs, initially spending well over an hour discussing my setup. He went over and beyond, even texting back/forth with updates and answering questions before and AFTER purchase. Rear light setup with DD SS3 Sport floods:
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He’s also working to make a T-harness to plug into the C424 connector and for a switch lead per the work by @Dadsquatch and @FordOwner. They're only working in reverse currently while he works on it.
THIS! I literally just did the same with John from SPV when determining what I need for my front fogs. I can't express enough how much I recommend SPV. Watch their/his YouTube videos first and give them a call with any questions. They will be getting my business again due to their amazing level to detail, knowledge, and customer service!!!
 

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anyone have a link to the pigtail / pin they used to connect to pin 3 on connector C424? want to try and add the pin the the existing bumper harness before ordering the G harness.
Plan is to use rear fog switch to control the amber backlight on my DD lights and an AUX switch for the main light.
 

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anyone have a link to the pigtail / pin they used to connect to pin 3 on connector C424? want to try and add the pin the the existing bumper harness before ordering the G harness.
Plan is to use rear fog switch to control the amber backlight on my DD lights and an AUX switch for the main light.

EU2Z-14421-BA this is a 5 pack of the pins, if you want to try the method I used.

It doesn't sound like a T-harness to plug into the C424 connector with the 3rd pin built in is available yet but that will likely be a plug and play option.
 

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I did this same procedure to get my rear fogs working with the new OEM switch M2DZ-11654-CC:
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And using these terminal pins:
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However, I figured out how to open the connector and add the terminal. Thanks to @flip for helping with the parts.

You’ll need to remove this grey retainer clip with needle nose plyers.
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Use a small flat head or pick to open the back plastic plate and slide it back on the wires. This will expose the weatherproof rubber plug.
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Thanks to @FordOwner and @ksmich for the terminal info. Its Pin 3 the CLS37 (WH-BU) wire. The White - Blue wire:
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Thanks to John @SPVPARTS for his help on how to wire it all and providing the pigtail needed. He was having trouble sourcing the Ford plug, to make this an easy plug-n-play setup, so we went this route. It plugs right into his short rear harness. Disregard the label though, as it’s for the American rear harness, which isn’t wired for the rear fog. I highly recommend John and @SPVPARTS if you have lighting needs or projects, he’s been super helpful!

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Disregard the spaghetti wiring, but this is how the pigtail plugs in…
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He thought he had a terminal pin that would work, and figured I’d try it, but it was slightly too large. I had to cut it off and soldered on the right one.
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I added some heat shrink and tested the fit/function before I install the pin terminal in the plug. It all works!
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You’ll need to use a small bit, I believe I used 3/32, to make a hole in the plastic plate. You’ll need to pull rubber plug back so you can see the terminal and insert the pin. Pay close attention to how you insert it, it will click into place when done properly. I used a small flathead and needle nose, be careful not to tear it…hread the pin/wire through the plate and 3rd hole in weatherproof plug.
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Close it back up
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Don’t forget to reinsert the retainer clip! I almost forgot…
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Plug back in the connector and you’re good to go… Note the orange fog symbol next to the seat belt symbol (see earlier post with ForScan changes)

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@Chritaka I am glad to see this mod worked for you. looks like a nice clean re-pinning of the connector.
 

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Hey all, I know this is basically a dead thread now but from looking at this thread. I am trying to add rear fog lights to my 2016 F150 and from the pics in the thread the broncos and my f150 use the same bcm. Im hoping someone could provide me a picture of what pin the rear fog light switch in the head lamp assembly goes to at the bcm. I know the rear fog output is C2280C Pin 25. But I need to know what the input to the BCM is. I have forscan and can enable rear fog but need to know the input control wire. Thanks
 
 





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